Paul Tretter wrote:

>We all want to see development on other browsers as well.  However, we had
>this discussion on the REBOL/View world and it was quite obvious that most
>agreed that RT's efforts are better spent on other projects for now.  As for
>the IE problem your company experienced, we have indications that IE Is
>growing in support.  In fact IE security is not a problem in our 170,000+
>employees.  Besides none of the other browsers are really fit for Enterprise
>level rollouts that adapt to robust Global policies. Your company should
>really contact an IT firm also to get better facts about IE.  Here is a good
>link for more info about browser stats:
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>http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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and here are links about WindowsXP security issues at all :-)
http://www.hevanet.com/peace/microsoft.htm
http://www.jsware.net/jsware/viinfo.html

Paul - your company is probably very well protected by strong 
architecture (firewalls, VPNs, IDS systems, strict user policies, 
probably limited web access etc.). It always depends upon what 
architecture are you using. We e.g. run 40+ Novell servers, so no MS 
Windows based users login into domains etc., no tools to remote 
administration. As from what you describe - you are probably very much 
dependant upon MS architecture, where various tools are well designed to 
fit together.

We face basic problems - antivirus systems are not enough. We are 
thinking into plugging-in some adware protection tools, setting all our 
machines to automatically update Windows, and maybe even personal 
firewals in some longer future. My personal prediction is, that the 
situation will become only worse re security.

But let me say that I can't somehow believe that IE is secure enough for 
you without additional settings/twists, but most ppl use it as-is, as it 
comes with OS. The fact is - you never know until new bug is found. And 
new issues are being found way too often to my liking ...

As for getting "getting enough facts about IE" - just put some scan on 
IE + Win vulnerabilities - there is plenty of facts :-) I don't believe 
IE is growing in support. I read other reports stating otherwise and 
what is more - IE6 is not developed for 2 years already and new version 
will come with Longhorn (2006?), etc. Those are arguments, which 
could/should be put into consideration too - 11 - 13% of alternatives is 
not small number at all and besides that IE is no option for Mac users 
anymore anyway ....

-pekr-

>Paul Tretter
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>>>The plugin module for MSIE is cool. And with the javascript access to
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>>>browser's DOM tree, interesting things can be done.
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>>Yes it is cool but MSIE is such a security sive that my company, and a
>>growing list of others, have banned the use of IE.  I would really like to
>>see development of the Plugin module for Mozilla/FireFox take place.
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>>Paul
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