Hello Giuseppe,
About the oppurtunity to use rebol application on Windows CE and Smartphone
you're right. I didn't think about
it in my response. I was also disappointed by he lack of good mobile platform support
with Rebol. There are no PalmOS
support even with the two new PalmOS releases wich are very powerfull.
And, in this kind of project, the developper needs good librairies to use efficiently
the particular things of these
plaforms (Persistence in memory, connectivity, specific sounds and graphics,...)
About running Rebol on Windows (with .Net) or Linux (with Mono), I still think the
benefit will be smaller. But good
librairies (in Rebol) to connect a Rebol script to usefull .Net dll or applications
could be interresting.
About the speed problem, I think that sometimes it can be important. I'm writting an
client-server + SQL DB application
in Rebol and the speed is important in my case (so many users). In this application,
sometimes Rebol run faster than
equivalent Java or Coldfusion routines. Even the SQL connexion (DocKimbel MySQL drive)
is sometimes more efficient!
CU
Karim.
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De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Giuseppe Chillemi
Envoyé : vendredi 14 mai 2004 9:58
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : [REBOL] RE : Rebol for .NET
Karim, I do not agree !
Using the .NET framework would open the opportunity to run an application on
every kind of hardware supported by
the framework.
.NET runs on every Windows Desktop (XP, ME, 2000 ...) but it exists for
Windows Mobile, Windows CE .NET devices
and SmartPhones (althought in a reduced form). As employer of a company which develops
for the mobile market I see how
important is to embrace this market NOW. Mobile will have 3 digits expansion ratio
each year in the following years.
.NET is an the opportunity to remove many of the differences that cost a lot
to companies that are implementing
software solutions for different hardware platforms. Rebol Technologies would have the
benefit of moving part of the
development of Rebol over the companies which take care of maintaining the
compatibility of the framework on different
hardware. You can see by yourself how important is for everyone to focus on its core
business.
When I read on the Rebol FAQ that CE compatibility needs a financer, a sponsor
I realize that my nice Rebol/View
Pro is far from my reference market and far from the reference market of many
companies. However I admit that
technologies changes really often and we could have a Windows XP powered smartphone in
a couple of years or a linux
computer system for our cars. Until then I remain of my opinion that .NET is one of
the solutions that guarantees the
wider hardware base at the least cost.
Giuseppe
PS: A last note: slowdown is not an issue for a lot of Rebol applications which idle
waiting for an input for the most
of time...
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Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Karim El Founas
Inviato: mercoledì 12 maggio 2004 18.27
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: [REBOL] RE : Rebol for .NET
The only hardware that run .NET is a PCx86 with Windows and, soon in the future, a
Linux via Mono.
A .Net interpreter/compiler of Rebol language will be less platform independent than
the current one. It will also slow
down the execution speed.
I do not understand why it could be usefull as it. But maybe, a new set of instruction
for interoperability could be
interesting if it give more things than the usual dll access of view/pro and
view/command.
We will also lose the fast deployment of the actual less-than-1Meg rebol/view
executable.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Giuseppe Chillemi
Envoyé : mercredi 12 mai
2004 12:47 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [REBOL] Rebol for .NET
Do you think that a REBOL for .NET would be possible ? It will surely open the door to
any hardware which has a .NET
framework available !
Giuseppe
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