Hi Jason > Presonally I don't mind [frames] > These days smart CSS is taking over , but there's still a considerable > learning curve.
That's part of the problem of personal preferences: everybody's got several, and a single website can't meet all of them. Like some people may have preferred the older first/prev/next nav bar for messages at REBOL.org. CSS can't help with that. (what can help is adding page-bar=old to the display-message URL, eg http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlXRHC&page-bar=old -- though right now, you'd need to program your own proxy to make that a personal default) > [constructive criticisms] > I'd suggest you also add the nav bar at the top by the header. > That would avoid a lot of up-down scrolling when one does not need/want to > read every message. And some people might want it at the top so they don't need to scroll back after reading a message. I can offer two solutions: 1. use the accesskeys (you may need to install a mozilla/firefox option to make them work. "[" -- back one page "]" -- forward one page More details at http://localhost/cgi-bin/boiler.r?display=accessibility.html 2. Add your own CSS to put it anywhere you like (not *actually* possible right now, but read on below) > I notice as great as rebol.org is, it could also benefit quickly from CSS > tune-up. Couldn't agree more. Which is one of the reasons we added the personal CSS feature a couple of weeks ago. Try these home-page variants for example (to be fair, these are mainly test data rather than candidates for a redesign): http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/index.r?css=greggirwin http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/index.r?css=moliad http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/index.r?css=sunanda The announcement, in case you missed it, is here: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlTJRC Anyone can add their own CSS to the site. Come up with a good look'n'feel and we'll probably steal your best ideas for the official CSS set. So I'd like to write now that to move the nav-bar wherever *you* want it, is simply a matter of redefining the class for the nav-bar to be a float or some absolute positioning that fits neatly with your monitor and window size. Sadly, I can't because the nav-bar uses a class that is also used in other parts of the menu, so you'd mess things up. But that's exactly the sort of oversight / shortcut / glitch I'd expect to surface as people start to explore the personal CSS feature. I'd be highly responsive to a request to change that. You can make the h2..h4 underlining go away with this: h2, h3, h4 {text-decoration:none;} If you've got the time to play around with the CSS, please do so. You are absolutely right that it needs a tune-up, and the REBOL Community are the people to do it! (Or at least, that'll be quicker than waiting for me to get around to it. And certainly less frustrating than having to ask a REBOL.org team member to make every little change for you). Thanks for all comments, Sunanda -- To unsubscribe from the list, just send an email to rebol-request at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
