how you learn is not simply reliant on how good we are as your teachers. 
how you learn is also dependent on you ability to undress yourself of
non-aboriginal and understand you have an obligation here also.  you cant
just sit back and take knowledge as student, nungas have never had that
luxury. we learn about our stuff from the belly of genocide. most dont
survive to live.
we can be a guide or a marker in that we have still our place of nunga
ness, you need to find that place yourself, because it is the whole planet
we are talking about it is all connected, so you might be 6th generation
here but you are in your place aboriginal somewhere else, and you need to
access it best way you can just like we do we survive genocide to live as
nungas best way we can most dont make it.



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> From: Bushranger Ned <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [recoznet2] karyns bio/irene
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 5:37 PM
> 
> Its quite possible that there are a lot of white folks here on this news
> group as well, who feel it is inappropriatte to repond and wait for you
and
> people like you to respond Irene.  We know that we have difficulty
> communicating with first people and we have for over 200 years which is
why
> the situation is now how it is.  So those of us here who may be white may
be
> sitting on the side reading listening learning and watching interactions.
> Our ability to learn how it is for you as aboriginals and first people
> depends on how you teach us.  Im here as a learner about first peoples
and
> accept I can never be an aboriginal, I am 6th generation australian and
feel
> I belong to this land as well as you I also accept that you are the
> traditional owners of this land and apologise on behalf of my ancestors
who
> may have been part of the invasion of this land.  I am Australian 2nd
> peoples immigrant to this country in its 6th generation.  I respect my
> country that I know live in and only know.  I know no other culture than
the
> one I have, which is a mix of my English and Irish cultures.  I am an
> Australian Immigrant.  I accept that first people must respond angrily to
> white folks as well for what the ancestors have done to aboriginal
people,
> because of their hurt and pain.  I grew up in the bush spent my life in
> rural outback queensland lived on properties and worked in sheep and
cattle
> as a ringer and stationhand.  Went to Grade 10 only.  I saw and
experienced
> and was involved in many things including fights and shooting roos and
pig
> hunting and mixed with people of all colours in the outback.  I have
worked
> with many aborigianl people in the bush.  I write poems about rural
> queensland. I have experienced sites of where aboriginals were massacred
in
> the early part of this century, I have seen sites where aboriginal people
> have walked and lived and died.  I still do not feel I have the ability
to
> know what you and the first Australian people are feeling.
> 
> Perhaps Irene you could tell us of your experinces and help us to
understand
> a bit about  what brings you to be advocating for your people and the
pain
> they have experinced at the hand of white people.
> 
> I would love to see if people on here can give some stories about their
> experiences and what brings them to see the plight of our first nation
> people are very real and what we white people on here may learn from
that.
> 
> Regards, Lance.
> 
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