Lance In 1983 South Australia adopted a Statewide policy that promoted working with male perpatrators of DV. Working with men has become one strategy amongst others for addressing DV across Australia. A national evaluation is happening right now on how effective these groups are. It seems to me that DV has emerged out of the 'white western feminist movement' and for good reasons, the main one being that hegemonic masculinity promotes violence toward women and children. In the same breath though, DV services and planning have not yet systematically looked at, or addressed, difference within DV. A recent study which I was involved, in SA, reported on the dearth of understanding of DV in indigenous communites as well as migrant, lesbian and gay communities. From my experience governments are paralysed when it comes to dealing with difference through policy, because 'policy' is an essentially liberal exercise. That is, the dominant way of doing policy is to identify an area of research, discover 'all' there is to know, subsume the diversity of the area within false paramaters and set up strategies to rationalise and manage the issue. An obvious example of this is how poorly the current govenemnt deals with reconciliation - it attempts to manage and administrate it when it is an issue that just doesnt fit into rational bureaucratic models of thinking and action. Anyway, DV services across the country are grappling with indigenous DV but is culturally a very difficult area for white govts to deal with. Unfortunately here in SA the Mary Street Family Awareness and Training Centre (an indigenous service addressing DV and other needs in this area) has just been defunded by the State govt. From what I know there are only a few (Nunga) men's groups dealing with violence and masculinity here in metro SA. Groups that attract white men are more prominent - but these don't appear to be attrtactive to Aboriginal men (which is understandable I think). There are also assorted other activities happening across SA addressing violence and masculinity in schools eg Boystalk, the Fathers and Sons Talk about Violence program and the Young Men Stopping Violence Program. Hope this is useful Ben -----Original Message----- From: Lance Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Transcript of "Sunday" program on Chan 9 I want to ask something here, Please forgiuve me if this is not appropriatte. Im aware that Domestic Violence and its relevant acts are a product of the introduction of the new environment sees gender equality iin society and the feminist movement has been a major contribution to this effort. I wonder at times how this process has addressed the issues of how men actually see violence and what it actually does to address the the cultural and societal expectation of masculinity in society. If we say that Domestic Violence is not OK and put a rule for society out there in gender equity land, how and what process have been underatken to address the issue of violence with men, both in white, black and other ethnicities in Australian society. We here often of th eterrible things man has done to woman, but what are we actually doing about other providing some punitive measure to the man for his behaviour towards a woman. Can I ask who and what are the professions that actually spend time in cultures and in gender specifity teaching the rights and worngs of violence and the boundaries of violence in society? I do not support violence in anyway, but I cant support a system that does nothing about working with the people who have labeled as being violent in society. Men in both cultures have been marginalised significantly enough that no one seems prepared to actually get out there and work with normal heterosexual men who have been socialised to believe the behaviour they produce is ok. There are plenty of people about who are prepared to talk about the affects of men in society but there doesnt seem to be many people out there actually doing anything about it. Sorry to get on my highhorse but I think this really importnat and is being grossly overlooked. Especially so in first people cultures as well, if we see hpow the introdcution of medicine has been introduced into aboriginal culltures where have bascially seperated from the medical environment in many cases. Yet culturally I believe this would have been of major importnace to aboriganal men. Anyway hope to generate discussion on this. Regards, Lance. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trudy and Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RecOzNet2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 7:09 PM Subject: [recoznet2] Transcript of "Sunday" program on Chan 9 > Full Transcript > "The truth about Aboriginal domestic violence > Reporter: Helen Dalley > DARCY TURGEON READING FROM REPORT: "An > examination revealed a multitude of scars on all parts of her > body. Her chest is deeply scared from a broken beer bottle. > Her left forearm and upper arm are extensively scarred from > a beer bottle. She also has stab wounds to her upper thighs > and lower abdomen; a nine to 10 inch scar just below the > breast from a knife wound. Her right eyebrow is scarred > from punching. It appears she cannot see out of her left eye > due to repeated blows. The back and top of her head has > numerous scars from being hit by metal bars and broken > bottles". > > REPORTER: This litany of injuries to an Aboriginal woman > from a remote Queensland community is detailed in a > clinician's report after her death. It is sadly typical of the > plight of many women in Aboriginal Australia. > > DARCY TURGEON READING FROM REPORT: "To this > Aboriginal woman, violence is part and parcel of her life. > She lives in a violent sub-culture where jealousies, > arguments and petty disputes are solved by violence. To > her, having someone hit you with a metal bar or slash you > with a broken beer bottle is anything but extraordinary. It's > commonplace." > > REPORTER: Domestic violence is going on, night after > night. In the very heart of Australia in Alice Springs, the > Aboriginal Night Patrol goes looking for the bashed and the > bloodied. This woman, badly beaten, is taken to hospital > and patched up. But, as is often the case in Aboriginal > communities, she laid no charges against the perpetrator > and soon returned to the same domestic situation. So this > horrific assault becomes just another one of the unreported > cases of domestic violence in Aboriginal communities. > > Overwhelmingly women are the victims. But the violence > engulfs the whole community, with men and women both > victims and offenders, with the Night Patrol either breaking > them up ... or patching them up. Some nights it's a constant > stream of bloodshed, abuse and alcohol-fuelled violence ... > the ugly result of a destructive cycle in Alice Springs, where > public drunkenness and alcohol abuse combine with despair > and hopelessness to produce a potent, potentially lethal > cocktail. > > KEVIN WIRRI, ABBOTT'S CAMP ALICE SPRINGS: Women > got killed here too."... > > For the full transcript go to: > http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/ > > If anyone does not have web access and wants to read the > full transcript, please contact me privately. > > Trudy > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > John Howard's GST: a tax for a new millenium... > ...to a fifties man everything from the sixties > looks brand new. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body > of the message, include the words: unsubscribe announce or click here > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce > This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the > copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair > use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without > permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." > > RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words: unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." 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