What I am saying, Lance , is that when we use skin colour to differentiate
between people, WE ARE THE SYSTEM, that perpetuates and promotes racism.
If we change the words, we change the perceptions and the System.
Laurie
Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lance Kelly wrote............
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Colourful words
>So Laurie,
>what your telling me is we spend what little money we have trying to change
>someones perception of words rather than trying to change the system that
>provides us with the words to say?
>Change the system by action and the words will change with us.
>Perception change when people can see change, I sometimes think we have it
>all arse about.
>Lance.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Laurie Forde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 9:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Redskins? Blacksins? Niggers?
>
>
>> Lance Kelly wrote........
>>
>>
>> , we should be grasping the words
>> >and celibrating the fact that by the name redskin, blackskin, whiteskin,
>> >yellowskin or any other skin that people are at least being acknowledged
>> for
>> >who we are.
>>
>> Lance,
>>
>> We are more than the colour of our skins.
>>
>> To claim that our skin colour defines ''who we are" is rubbish.
>>
>> E.G. The colour of my skin is indescribable in less than 2000words
>> (approx.)---By your definition of ''who we are'', I don't exist, and as
>you
>> can see by my meanderings, I do exist---so you are demonstrably wrong,
>> Lance.
>>
>> Keep your eye on the bottom line, Lance---what Sioux says is
correct ---we
>> are inundated with racist messages and it is about time we did something
>> about it.
>>
>> Laurie.
>>
>> Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Sioux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 5:45 PM
>> >Subject: [recoznet2] Redskins? Blacksins? Niggers?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hau kola-pi,
>> >>
>> >> Just a thought. I have recently been abused in a store when asking
fro
>> >the
>> >> removal of an item which I find grossly offensive from the counter
top.
>> >>
>> >> In fact< I have had various reactions when I have come across this
>before
>> >> and spoken to the store owner or counter person.
>> >>
>> >> The offensive item are candies called 'Redskins'. A kind of red chewy
>> >> thing! As a Lakhota person I find these items extremely offensive,
and
>> >> whenever I come across them I always like to approach the store owner
>or
>> >> sales person, and explain just how I feel.
>> >>
>> >> Now, I guess many of you are going to think I am being silly over
this,
>> >but
>> >> I find this a very bad example to set to children whom I presume would
>be
>> >> tha main consumers of this candy. What kind of a message is it
sending
>> to
>> >> these childrem? There is even a picture I think of an 'indian' on the
>> >> wrapper!
>> >>
>> >> Each time I approach about this problem, I speak calmly and quietly,
>and
>> >> attempt to explain why I am offended and ask if they would please
>remove
>> >> the item form display and preferably from stock.
>> >>
>> >> I say to people, ok, how about if this thing was some kind of licorice
>> >> candy? Would they have it on their counter if it was called
Blackskins
>> or
>> >> Niggers? Of course, they usually protest that of course they wouldn't
>> >> thing of doing such a thing...............and of course they shouldn't
>> >either!
>> >>
>> >> My next reply then, is what is the difference between calling this red
>> >> chewy candy a 'Redskin' and a piece of licorice a Blackskin or a
>nigger?
>> >>
>> >> I must hasten to add here, that personally, I would never use such
>words,
>> >> they are not even in my vocabulary and are used here purely for the
>> >> comparison! My people and all my brothers and sisters of the native
>> >> american nations have strong feelings for our aboriginal brothers and
>> >> sisters here.
>> >>
>> >> But Please can someone see what I am saying?????>
>> >>
>> >> I am very sad today................
>> >>
>> >> Sioux
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