-------- Original Message -------- Subject: (Fwd) News: Working Group on Rights of Indigenous Peoples Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:53:55 +0800 From: "Jim Duffield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Settlers for First Nation Australia To: Acker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Church" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"JIMLIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yagan Mob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:00:39 -0300 Send reply to: Innu People Forum list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Larry Innes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: News: Working Group on Rights of Indigenous Peoples To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NETWARRIORS REPORT: Commission on Human Rights Intersessional Working Group on the Draft Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples DAY 2 - 19/10/99 (Please note that this is not a professional or comprehensive transcript, but rather a summary of main points and event of the day in official sessions. Any questions, comments, or corrections should be directed to John Stevens of Academic Council of the United Nations System/Netwarriors) MORNING SESSION: The official morning session was, as on the first day, very brief, but for different reasons. We were informed at 10:30 that the Chair had given the Indigenous Caucus' counter-proposal to the governments, and that he was now going to meet with them and discuss it. The counter-proposal was simple: that the "Informal Consultations" (basically closed government sessions) be removed from the workplan, and that any informal meetings that were held needed to held with the full participation of indigenous delegates. Mr. Chavez then went into consultation with the states and returned around 11:30AM to talk to the Indigenous Caucus, which in the interim had held a meeting of its own to discuss this and other issues further. Mr. Chavez returned with a response from the governments: that they understood the indigenous representatives' concerns, and that they had a possible solution to the quandary. The general debate would start at noon, but without the approval of the agenda. This would allow the WG to begin its deliberation and also give all participants time to think about the governments' response proposal. The governments offered to allow a small group of indigenous delegates to their consultations as observers only, to witness the debates firsthand. Under this plan there would still be daily "Informal Consultations" but indigenous peoples would be able to monitor what happened in them. Mr. Chavez stated that this was a "gesture of goodwill in the spirit of dialogue" on the part of the governments, and he urged the indigenous delegates to accept this compromise. In response a number of indigenous delegates rejected this proposal, saying that it was a step back from the idea of full participation that they had fought for in this WG, and that it merely legitimized government drafting groups that would rewrite the Declaration. Some questioned the motives of the governments in trying to institutionalize these sessions, and a few felt that it might be used to create a bloc of states that would act contrary to the interests of the indigenous peoples. After a lengthy debate the Chair realized that he could not start the meeting and it was decided to return at 3PM to discuss the issue further. He promised to take the indigenous delegates' response back to the states. AFTERNOON SESSION: The meeting reconvened at 3:30. Mr. Chavez first went through some preliminaries, such as adopting the agenda (not the workplan) and moving quickly to agenda item 3, "Organization of Work." Mr. Chavez decided (partly due to pressure form the indigenous delegates) to move the debate on the workplan to the floor and allow all sides to participate in a dialogue to resolve the impasse. Several indigenous delegates and states spoke on the matter. Mr. Ken Deer, Indigenous Caucus co- chair, delivered a statement which summarized the indigenous peoples' position: that the "informal Consultations" needed to be stricken from the workplan. He assured the group that this was not an indictment of informal meetings where all parties had full participation, nor did it rule out the need to break the meetings for caucuses when an impasse had been reached. But he, and the other indigenous speakers, emphasized that there should be no workplan that excludes indigenous participation in the proceedings. States responded with a certain amount of sympathy, although all of them said that they felt the original workplan would be very useful. The US, in a rather sardonic statement, implicitly affirmed the fears of the indigenous delegates when they supported the original workplan as a way to create a "more concise text" of the Declaration. In the end, New Zealand broke the impasse by moving that the "Informal Consultations" be stricken from the workplan, with the proviso that parties or the Chair could call for consultations during the course of the session. With that, the workplan was finally approved, and the Chair opened the general debate on Item m4 of the agenda, the Declaration. Australia and the US were the first speakers, and both made fairly short general remarks. Australia stated that they remained committed to "productive engagement" to advance indigenous rights, and felt that if all participants acts in the spirit of cooperation, more progress could be made. The US used similar language, but further tied progress to universality and existing human rights law. New Zealand also picked up this idea and further stated that the Declaration should be "robust" yet consistent with their national legislation and international law. Several indigenous representatives made general remarks that responded to these speeches. Andrea Carmen of the International Indian Treaty Council talked about the idea of "peoples" in the Declaration and maintained the long-standing policy of indigenous representatives that there should be no changes to the current version of the Declaration (her full statement will follow this report). An Amazigh delegate pointed out that the UN Charter begins "we the peoples" not "we the states" and that the UN should focus more on the globalization of human rights rather than the globalization of commerce. Ongoing problems such as discrimination against indigenous peoples were an impediment to the growth of international human rights and he called on governments to try to achieve genuine coexistence with indigenous peoples and give them proper recognition. Other indigenous representatives pointed out progress on indigenous rights in other UN fora. Marceal Arias, a Kuna representative, highlighted a recent commentary from the Human Rights Committee regarding the self-determination of First Nations in Canada. The Committee called on Canada to further explain its idea of self-determination and expressed its concern that the Canadian government had not yet implemented the recommendations of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. The Committee called on Canada to consider the implications of self-determination for First Nations, which included their right to "freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources" (para 8, the report's UN document number is CCPR/C/79/Add.105). Mr. Arias pointed out that this demonstrated that the right of self-determination was achieving greater attention in the United Nations, with broad application. Ms. Dalee Sambo of the Indian Law Resource Center went further and cited a number of positive developments that supported maintaining the Declaration in its current form. She pointed out that in the past few years there has been progress in shifting government attitudes towards the Declaration and that its underlying principles were indeed consistent not only with international law, but with the practice of the UN treaty bodies. She claimed that governments who insisted on the Declaration being compatible with domestic law were putting an unreasonable "ceiling" on the Declaration. Instead, governments should continue to make forward progress and focus on "the progressive evolution of fundamental human rights of indigenous peoples." She called on government to observe the positive developments taking place in the treaty bodies, especially CERD (the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination) and the HRC, that took universal human rights standards and applied them to indigenous issues. Other delegates, including the Government of Cuba and several Latin American indigenous delegates, reaffirmed the importance of the Declaration and called for greater dialogue and progress in getting the Declaration adopted. Other indigenous delegates made statements on self-determination which the Chair gently suggested be considered in Wednesday's debate (we will try to transmit some of these interventions later today or early tomorrow). After a closing prayer of Thanksgiving by Mr. Billy Two Rivers, Mohawk, the meeting rose at about 6:15PM. -- Greetings to you all!! I have been asked by represetnatives from your area to send you this update. The reports for Days 1 and 2 will follow soon, and I will then send you subsequent reports as they are published. If y<ou do not wish to recieve these reports, or have further questions or comments about the reports, please reply to this e-mail address. Sincerely, John Stevens Academic Council of the UN System Peace Studies Fellow, Cornell University ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], i Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:21:51 PDT NETWARRIORS REPORT: Commission on Human Rights Intersessional Working Group on the Draft Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples DAY 3 - 20/10/99 (Please note that this is not a professional or comprehensive transcript, but rather a summary of main points and events of the day in official sessions. Any questions, comments, or corrections should be directed to John Stevens of Academic Council of the United Nations System/Netwarriors) MORNING SESSION : Wednesday was the first full day of work for the session, and most of the day was spent on interventions discussing the concept of self-determination. The morning began with the last 5 general presentations. The first speaker, a representative of the Metis National Council, spoke on the governments' frequent assertions that the Declaration would only be acceptable if it was consistent with domestic legislation. He proposed an alternate perspective : that states should instead measure their laws against the Declaration. No government can argue that existing laws may fetter or limit the aspirations and rights of indigenous peoples, he argued, as this would destroy the validity of these laws. The speaker also highlighted the controversy over collective versus individual rights. Only a people has the moral and political authority to create conditions for such rights, and it is only through a healthy collective identity that individual rights can function. Terry L. Janis of the Indian Law Resource Center spoke on the fundamental nature of the Declaration, stating that it was needed as a statement of indigenous peoples' continuing existence. The complexity and comprehensiveness of the Declaration reflected the minimal aspirations of their existence. He stated that documents such as the Declaration and other human rights instruments challenged governments to advance their domestic laws and policies, and pointed out that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was acceded to by the United States at a time when racial and gender discrimination were rampant, and the era of termination of Indian tribes had begun. "Strong and confident nations who respect the rule of law do not fear such challenges" he asserted, and he called on the delegates present to respect the ideas of equality, non-discrimination, and opposition to racism as they discuss and approve the Declaration. A representative of the International Work Group for Indigenous Affairs and the Asian Indigenous Peoples' Pact noted the U.S. claims to rethinking their position and hoped that this would be reflected in the debates of this session. He then pointed out that delegates should be mindful of the dynamic and evolving nature and content of law and realize how this relates to the challenge of the Declaration. The Declaration could do for indigenous peoples what the Convention on the Rights of the Child is doing to help children's' rights. For vulnerable sectors of society, he argued, measures such as this were needed to uphold and respect their rights. Kapupu Diaw Mutimanwa of the Federation Africaine des Autochtones Pygmees informed the Working Group that the Declaration was necessary to protect his people from the depredations of war surrounding them and the continuing destruction of the Central African rainforests. He urged African governments to respect all international human rights instruments when dealing with his people. A representative of the Ogoni people also discussed the link between indigenous rights and environmental degradation by detailing how his people were affected by pertoleum extraction and incursions on their land that were supported by the Nigerian government. This ended the discussion on general issues, and the Chair turned the debate to the issue of self-determination. Before doing that, he gave some of his impressions of the debate thus far. He was encouraged to see how gradually positions were coming closer together and was glad to see points of agreement emerging. He stated that he detected a political commitment not only by indigenous representatives but by representatives of governments to the Declaration. He highlighted the fact that there was agreement that the Declaration must be a substantive document, both effective and universal. He also felt that there was agreement that the document should reflect a consensus between all participants. He was also happy to hear that delegates wanted the Declaration passed quickly in an atmosphere of trust, understanding, and full participation. There were, however, some difficulties. Some contentious points remain, such as the definition and usage of the word "peoples." He also pointed out that some speakers (particularly from Africa) had emphasized the lack of participation of many member states in the process, and that this needed to be addressed if the document was to be universal in application. He did feel, however, that progress could be made without flagging the differences, and that going from the simplest to the most complex issues might be the best approach, as had been done previously. In this manner it would be easier to build consensus and proceed to the Declaration's adoption. With that, the Chair turned to the next item of the agenda, a general debate on self-determination. For the purposes of this report, two statements from the day before will be summarized here, as they directly appertain to self-determination. Petuuche Gilbert, a representative of the Indigenous World Association, stated that self-determination was at the heat of what it mean to be "truly indigenous peoples." He informed the Working Group that the NCAI at its summer meeting had condemned the U.S. State Department's policy on the Declaration, in particular for its ideas on self-determination. "[H]ow," he asked, "do we coexist peacefully with nation states that control and prevent our self-determination?" It was very necessary for this concept to be in the Declaration and understood correctly. Armand McKenzie, representing the Innu of Nitassinan, made an impassioned statement on self-determination that focussed on the long history of disregarding indigenous rights to self-determination. He saw it as the fundamental problem in state-indigenous relations, and said that the states' attitude was that "you presume that we cannot decide about our own future." Indigenous peoples are distinct peoples, and self-determination belongs to peoples, not states. Self-determination was the right to make decisions about all spheres of life without imposition by an outside authority. He cited the problem of Quebec's attempts to secede and the HRC's comment on Canada as examples of the lack of respect for self-determination for indigenous peoples. The first speaker on the issue on Wednesday, Paul Chartrand of the Metis National Council, emphasized using the concept of equality to understand what self-determination means to indigenous peoples. It is not absolute but is exercised with respect to the equal rights of all peoples. He was the first of many indigenous speakers who called for states to not see self-determination as an automatic threat. The government of Canada restated its position, saying that self-determination was central to the Declaration but that it must respect "the political, constitutional, and territorial integrity of democratic states." Self-determination's purpose was to "promote harmonious arrangements for self-government within sovereign and independent states." The representative stated that Canada was taking steps to implement expanded rights to self-determination within Canada and that it should be "implemented flexibly." An indigenous representative from Bolivia stated that her people had been self-organizing for a long time, but that they needed a full right of self-determination to truly deal with issues of poverty and malnutrition. The right to self-determination, she states, is nothing other than respect for differences within the relations of different societies to manage their own affairs. The delegate of Brazil asserted that the idea of self-determination contained in the Declaration showed an evolving meaning that exceeded its colonial context and demonstrated its ability to adapt to a world in constant renewal. He asserted that the exercise of rights and corollary obligations must be carried out within the regulatory framework of the society of which indigenous peoples are a part. Self-determination must include respect for the political constitution and territorial integrity of states. He stated that his delegation was eager to work on the Declaration, and would consider the possibility of improvements to make it more universal in nature, including the consolidation of the rights granted to indigenous peoples An indigenous delegate from Peru talked at length about the need for a document that contained obligations and moral force so that a utopic sort of self-determination, which focused on autonomy within the state, could emerge. He discussed the legal history of the idea in the United Nations and spoke eloquently about the ability of the current declaration to create relations of peace and understanding between indigenous peoples and states. The observer government of Colombia detailed how its policies towards indigenous peoples expressed a useful method of self-determination, one that gave powers of political and economic management to the indigenous peoples but remained within the framework of the state constitution and political system. Andrea Carmen of the International Indian Treaty Council pointed out, as did other indigenous delegates, that this is not the first international instrument to contain the idea of self-determination of peoples (see her statement, already released). She stated that it was paradoxical that the US would ratify the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which contains the right of self-determination, while refusing to recognize the idea for indigenous peoples. A number of indigenous delegates, while assuring states that self-determination's fulfillment would not mean wholesale secession from states, nonetheless tried to strengthen the idea of self-determination contained in the declaration. Some critiqued the formulation of self-determination in Canada's intervention, and also that of the United States. The speaker for the US called self-determination "the most difficult question in the entire text" and stated that while the US supports the UN Charter and the first Articles of the Covenants, its definition of the concept is focused on what it called "the entire peoples of a state or those that could constitute themselves as a sovereign independent state, and not particular groups within a state." The US also defined this very precisely as "self-government: and "broad authority in local government" for the indigenous peoples of the US. The US wanted a more precise definition of the term and what exact rights this notion was needed to substantiate. The government delegation of Australia made an extremely brief statement, wherein they said that it was "inappropriate" to consider self-determination as implying "the establishment of separate nations and separate laws" and Australia could not support this idea in the Declaration. Mr. Tom Ross, a Bdewakanton Dakota from the Pejutaziz/Yellow Medicine Upper Sioux Community read from an NCAI resolution that supported Article 3 of the Declaration, and then commented on self-determination in the United States, pointing out that while the Us has restored some things, it is "what has not been restored that is important." Self-determination was more than a list of components; it meant establishing better with the government and other sectors of society. It is "a tool for survival." Argentina reiterated many of the points of other governments, and also expressed reservations about the concept in the Declaration. Ms. Tracey Whare of Maori Legal Service was one of the first to point out the paradox of making the Declaration consistent with the domestic laws of nation-states, in this case New Zealand. "To limit an international Declaration to the domestic legal system of any one State is in direct conflict with the purpose of international human rights standard setting and is a contradiction of the principle of good faith." Limiting the Declaration in this way made indigenous participation worthless "because it would add nothing to the rights that we supposedly enjoy in our domestic settings." A representative of the Indigenous Peoples and Nations Coalition called to attention another paradox, "that we must advocate self-determination at the United nations, which is comprised solely of governments" who did not allow indigenous peoples to participate in political life. Mr. Tony Black Feather delivered a strong statement on the need for remembering that self-determination meant responsibility, not just to the people but to the earth and future generations. He pointed out that indigenous peoples had been coming to the UN in good faith for 20 years, but that member states like the US had broken treaties with American Indians. He suggested that "the time has come for member nations to remember their responsibility with the human rights process and to act in good faith outside domestic politics." The morning ended with a statement from Switzerland. The speaker advocated a Swiss formula for self-determination which amounted to granting self-administration to peoples. He advocated the idea of subsidiarity to allow indigenous peoples to organize within the nation-state. AFTERNOON SESSION: Mr. Billy Two Rivers, speaking for the Assembly of First Nations, opened the afternoon meeting by reiterating the idea that self-determination was the "responsibility" of indigenous peoples. He characterized it as a determination to preserve land, culture, and laws. "We will determine our future in the same way you determine yours." He pointed out that many states had undergone self-determination struggles of their own. The Declaration would provide a frame for indigenous self-determination, but he emphasized that "there is nothing new here." The government of Pakistan made a brief statement supporting the idea of self-determination as expressed in the UN Charter. They also supported it as it exists in article 3 of the Declaration, and in that spirit would not accept dilution of the language. . Jimid Mansayagan of the Lumad Mindanaw People's Federation stressed the urgency and clarity of the right of self-determination when one compared nation-states to indigenous peoples. Indigenous peoples needed to maintain land rights and powers of self-determination to pursue development in their own way. His people do not want to usurp the nation-state, but they need self-governance of their territories to survive as peoples. The government of Finland stated that the right to self-determination is a basic principle of the Declaration They stated that they would support it provided that Article 31 stress that self-determination applies only to local and internal affairs. The scope and content of self-determination would have to be determined on a case-by-case basis, given that there was no single solution to the problems indigenous peoples faced. They also felt that Article 45 should be reformulated to mirror Article 8(4) of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Minorities. John Henriksen, speaking on behalf of the Saami Council, stressed self-determination's place in existing international law. Government fears of secession or dismemberment were groundless given that international law had provisions governing the exercise of self-determination. What governments needed to understand was that the Western nation-state model was not compatible with the lives of many indigenous peoples. He refuted the argument of some governments that self-determination should not include resource management by citing the HRC's report on Canada where it stated that indigenous peoples should have control of their "natural wealth." The government of Guatemala also stated that self-determination is a key component of the Declaration, and they believed that a door had been opened to create consensus wording on the relevant article. Self-determination must be considered in the framework of national unity and maintaining the territorial integrity of the state. Indigenous peoples have a right to development within a single united nation. The speaker stressed that the Working Group needed to get into a draft exercise to make the article acceptable to all parties concerns. Previous discussion showed that at no time can it authorize or encourage actions that would partially or totally threaten the sovereignty or integrity of states. Jocelyn Terese of FOAG, an alliance of Indians of French Guyana, said that cultural rights have often been counterposed against the exclusion of indigenous peoples from politics. The struggle for self-determination is ongoing, he stated, and indigenous peoples needed the Declaration passed without change. The delegation of Mexico reiterated the by now tired point that self-determination could only be achieved without damage to the sovereignty or territorial integrity of nation-states. Indigenous peoples in Mexico, he said, have many forms of local autonomy as long as it is consistent with Mexican law. Such an approach respects the integrity of the state and the congruity of the national legal system. A Maasai representative from Tanzania said that self-determination was an integral need for indigenous peoples, but states were diluting this by constantly stating the indigenous peoples could not secede. She urged governments to see the notion of self-determination positively, not as usurpation of sovereignty but a recognition of the collective rights of peoples. The Maasai have suffered depredations because land use decisions have been taken away from them. She cited UN documents and conferences that demonstrated the self-determination was both a need and a right for indigenous peoples. The government of France stated that it realized how important self-determination was and asserted that it was enacting the idea selectively in its territories and departments. The representative asserted that his government was grateful for all the clarifications that indigenous peoples were providing and hoped that existing differences would not bar the creation of the best possible text. Self-determination must reflect the right to operate on the basis of consensus and not be enacted to the detriment of other populations. Warren Allmand of the International Center for Human Rights and Democratic Development supported what many indigenous peoples said about self-determination not being a direct threat to nation-states. Qualifications should not be put on the right, but rather the idea should be negotiated between specific indigenous nations and state governments to define its parameters. New wording was not needed at this time, he asserted. He pleaded with governments to be magnanimous on this issue: "Be generous; your fears are exaggerated." The government of New Zealand agreed with many other states that the notion of self-determination was important, but that its exercise had to be congruent with domestic law. A representative of the Navajo Nation pointed out that the US position taken here was "a step backward from its official position" in the domestic context. Ecuador sated that the Declaration needed to be passed, and that the draft before them was an important first cast. They believes that only minor changes were needed to make the text more congruent with international law. After asserting that self-determination for indigenous peoples was not equivalent to that of states and that it did not imply dismemberment, the speaker detailed how indigenous peoples in Ecuador had been granted self-determination in many spheres of life. The Declaration would further strengthen such processes and give special peoples special care internationally. A representative from Asian Indigenous Peoples' Pact reaffirmed the fact that the Declaration was indeed in congruence with international law and that Article 3 could not be changed to be "in line" with domestic laws since that would make it less than existing international law. A representative of adivasi groups of India said that the right to self-determination was a right of all peoples, and that this needed to be doubly reaffirmed for indigenous peoples. He countered the assertions of several state representatives that the concept needed to be diluted in the Declaration. Mr. Stuart Patterson of the Haudenosaunee that self-determination's definition was up to the indigenous peoples, since it was their self-determination being discussed. The concept could not be defined by governments and could not be isolated from the web of rights and principles that the Declaration embodied. An indigenous representative from Peru stated that the challenge of Article 3 as a right for indigenous peoples was an appeal to the international community to formalize the situation of indigenous peoples on threshold of the 21st century. Enshrining this right for indigenous peoples would allow them to recover much of what they had lost in the past due to the denial of this very right. An Amazigh representative, presented a petition signed by 400 Amazigh organizations and individuals reaffirming their rights, and he stated that oppressed peoples needed the right to self-determination to enact their other rights. This idea was enshrined in the UN Charter and all states needed to support the right to self-determination. Mr. Ormond Parker, representing a coalition of Australian indigenous groups, expressed his disappointment with Australia's "inflexible" attitude because the forms that self-determination take will vary according to the law, customs, and needs of individual indigenous peoples. The fundamental issues of equality and non-discrimination must be paramount; to limit its applications to indigenous peoples offends the principle of prohibition of racism. Mr. Frank Guivarra of the National Aboriginal and Islanders Legal Services Secretariat (NAILS) declared that self-determination "should simply be given its ordinary and natural meaning," and that states fears about the concept "were ill-conceived and without foundation." Ambassador Ron Barnes, speaking for Alaskan peoples, highlighted the paradox of asking the same governments who had oppressed indigenous peoples to acknowledge their right to self-determination. When law and order inhibits the ability of peoples to survive, he proclaimed, indigenous peoples' law must replace it. This is the heart of self-determination. Any change to the Declaration was contrary to his mandate and would only benefit the colonizers. Bineet Mundu of the International Alliance of Indigenous and Tribal Peoples of the Tro pical Forests stated that self-determination was a way to change how indigenous peoples were conceived of as social, political, and economic entities. Doing this would allow indigenous peoples to live their lives fully. Terry Janis of the Indian Law Resource Center focused on the link between the Declaration and the survival of indigenous peoples. Self-definition was an important part of this, as was external recognition of their existence as peoples. Indigenous peoples must not be considered lesser peoples. He noted that there is currently no standard that validates the survival of indigenous peoples, but that indigenous representatives were aggressively addressing the concerns of member states and moving the process towards consensus, especially on Article 3. He called for the United States to not compromise American Indian sovereignty in international instruments. The representative of Venezuela stated that her country was undergoing many changes and renovating all aspects of life. This included revising the constitution to acknowledge the role played by indigenous peoples in constituting the nation. Self-determination should reflect this; it should work by integrating peoples into the nation-states of which they are a part, rather than giving rise of separatism. An indigenous delegate from Chile said that dialogue was important to really understand self-determination, but that dialogue must exceed international instruments. Indigenous peoples have not had much opportunity to affect international standards, and that this reflected the oppression that indigenous peoples have been subject to historically. The discussion here was on new norms; laws are not static and governments constantly modify laws. TO think otherwise is to deny the historical processes to which international law is subject. No laws are cast in stone and states should not fear this process or the right to self-determination. The final speaker of the day, a Bolivian indigenous delegate, expressed regret that the government of Bolivia was not in attendance to hear these proceedings, as 60% of Bolivia was indigenous. Self- determination must reflect the diversity of peoples and is in contrast to the standardization and homogenization that is the legacy of colonialism. It is the right of peoples to determine their own future in conjunction with international treaties. The speaker called for more imaginative ways for states and indigenous peoples to consult on these matters. The meeting rose shortly before 6PM, when the last speaker, the government of Norway, requested a delay to consult with their superiors about the statement. ------- End of forwarded message ------- |\/\/\/| Jim Duffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] | o o| 12 Hurrey Place BEECHBORO WA 6063 AUSTRALIA C _) | ,____| "[The government] would like to see us assimilated, little | / black bodies and white minds, for that is what this current | | native title debate is about...They can't rip babies out of their mothers' arms any more but they can change the law and appropriate our distinctiveness as a people and they can try to assimilate us...There is no doubt that the current native title debate is about racism." 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