The Sydney Morning Herald
Children of 12 may be tried as adults

Date: 11/01/00

By LINDA DOHERTY

The State Government is considering lowering the age where
children are presumed to be innocent of crimes - from 14 to 12 -
because
of views that children of the 21st century are more sophisticated
than their predecessors.

The Attorney-General, Mr Shaw, yesterday released a discussion
paper reviewing the criminal responsibility of children, which calls for

scientific evidence to support the proposition "that today's children
are more able to distinguish right from wrong than their earlier
counterparts".

The review was welcomed by the Opposition but criticised by legal
experts, who warned that it would
 scapegoat children because there
was no evidence today's youngsters understood the consequences of their
actions any more than those
 of a generation ago.

The most radical proposition from the Attorney-General's criminal law
review division is to lower t
he age at which doli incapax applies,
from 14 to 12.

The age of criminal responsibility - the minimum age at which children
can be charged - is 10 in mo
st Australian jurisdictions. But from
10 to 14, doli incapax is the common-law presumption that children are
incapable of wrongdoing.

This means the prosecution must prove beyond reasonable doubt that the
child knew the criminal act
was wrong, not simply naughty or
mischievous.

Mr Shaw said the Government would act cautiously on the sensitive issue,
but he highlighted comment
s made last year by the senior
Children's Court magistrate, Mr Stephen Scarlett.

"The children's magistrate, Mr Scarlett, has suggested that maybe the
limit of 14 is too high, so i
t may be that on the basis of material
about the increasing sophistication of young people in our community
that there's a case for fine-t
uning this law, for lowering the age at
which there's a presumption against criminal responsibility," Mr Shaw
said.

Mr Scarlett said last April: "It would seem obvious that children in the
final stages of the 20th c
entury are better educated and more
sophisticated than their counterparts 200 years ago.

"A child of 12 in Australia has access to television, radio and the
Internet, and has a far greater
 understanding of the world than a
12-year-old in rural Britain in 1769."

Doli incapax received widespread publicity in NSW last month when a
12-year-old boy was found not g
uilty of the manslaughter of
six-year-old Corey Davis.

The president of the NSW Law Society, Mr John North, said he supported
public debate but the "lack
of maturity and development in
children" should be taken into account "right up to the age of 14".

"Just because they are bombarded with electronic information [and] the
Internet ... doesn't mean th
ey have any greater intellectual
development," he said.

The director of the National Children's and Youth Law Centre, Mr Louis
Schetzer, said the proposal
would "further scapegoat" children
by a Government whose policies were having a "particularly harsh effect"
on children.

In 1997-98, 1,117 criminal matters involving children aged from 10 to 14
were finalised in NSW cour
ts.

The Opposition Leader, Mrs Chikarovski, "applauded" the Government's
investigation of whether faster
rates of maturation were having
an impact on children's legal responsibilities.

"I'm a mother of teenagers and I've got to tell you I think they're
growing up faster," she said.

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The Australian
Experts oppose lowering crime
 age
 By JOHN ELLICOTT and BERNARD LANE
 12jan00

 "SOME kids are South Park sharp, but others just aren't." That
 was one of the reactions yesterday to the attempt to review the
 legal concession that presumes children do not knowingly commit
 crimes until they are aged 14 or more.

 The NSW Government has called for empirical evidence it believes
 will show children are growing up faster than ever, and which
 could support a law change later this year.

 But the suggestion has caused a row in legal and medical circles,
 with many critics saying it is false to suggest children are growing
 up any faster than they were 100 years ago.

 Edgar Freed, a psychiatrist who sits on the board of the NSW
 Australian Medical Association, said even though modern children
 could be acquiring more knowledge or facts through the Internet
 and other sources, it did not mean they were gaining greater
 moral judgment.

 "Children don't develop an adult sense of maturity merely through
 the acquisition of knowledge," Dr Freed said.

 "To determine what is right or wrong takes time and experience
 through a number of influences, including at home or church
 groups.

 "One can't get that from the Internet".

 The NSW Government has issued a discussion paper looking at
 whether the law, called doli incapax (Latin for incapable of wrong),
 should be altered to cover only charges relating to manslaughter
 or murder, or be reduced from 14 to cover children only between
 the ages of 10 and 12.

 The law means there is a rebuttable presumption in criminal cases
 against children that they did not know their actions were wrong
 when they committed a crime. The onus is placed on the
 prosecution to show there was intent.

 Normally this means prosecutors must get school and psychiatric
 reports to prove a child had an ability to determine right from
 wrong.

 Michael Antrum, the chair of the legal issues committee of the
 NSW Law Society, said a law that required a prosecutor to make
 an extra effort was a "worthy and cautious step".

 "Reactionaries are always suggesting children should be dealt with
 toughly whenever there is a major issue around, but I am very
 suspicious of that view, " he said.

 "There is a great case that children aren't as mature as they used
 to be say 200 years ago, when they were sent down mines, were
 often the breadwinners and faced incredible hardships."

 NSW Law Society president John North said society would have to
 be reassured with hard empirical evidence that children were
 growing up quicker today before they would support a law
 change.

 Even if the proposed change had little practical effect on children's
 trials, it had symbolic importance, according to criminologist Chris
 Cunneen.

 "The broader question is whether we want to move to a criminal
 justice system that treats children more like adults," Associate
 Professor Cunneen, director of Sydney University's Institute of
 Criminology, said yesterday.

 He did not know of any evidence that today's children underwent
 more rapid moral, social or cognitive development as a result of
 education and media exposure.
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Letters to the editor at the SMH
Letters: Lowering age limit not best solution

Date: 13/01/00

I refer to the recent discussion relating to NSW Government plans to
lower the criminal age (Herald, January 11). If the age of criminal

responsibility is to be lowered, then the age of civic responsibility
should likewise be lowered.

The NSW Attorney-General points to recent medical and sociological
research which indicates that the doli incapax rule no longer
reflects the capacities and abilities of children over 10 years.

By this reasoning, children should be granted the right to vote, the
right to wage parity with adults, the right to start work at an earlier
age
and the right to consent to sexual relations.

This is not an attempt to clarify the legal definition of the child: how
could it be when a child could be held capable of committing a
criminal act, yet deemed incapable of actively participating in the
polity?
- Darren Smith, Georges Hall.

Like the Opposition Leader, Kerry Chikarovski, I am a mother. But I
don't believe children are "growing up faster" than ever (Herald,
January 11).

I agree with the president of the NSW Law Society, John North, that
children today may have greater access to superficial knowledge,
and a wider range of fantasies to convince them (and others, it seems)
that they are intellectually mature. But there is no scientific
evidence to suggest the biological development of the contemporary brain
and its ability to reason is an improvement over the brain of a

body born in 1948.

Frankly, I don't understand why children under 16 are in court at all.
Don't the Scandinavians have better ways of dealing with children

as victims of crime and children as perpetrators of crime?

Whether victims or perpetrators, children don't need harassment by
bullies in suits who claim to represent justice. They don't need the
solemn naivety of the jury. Children under 16 should never go before an
adversarial court. They should appear before some sort of
tribunal consisting of psychologists, social workers and magistrates.
And our community deserves a higher standard of youth refuge
centre.
- Carolyn van Langenberg, Glebe.

The story "Children of 12 may be tried as adults" refers to the
sophistication of children today, due to the influence of television,
the
Internet and radio.

It's possibly not sophistication, but desensitisation to violence - so
graphically depicted in films and video games - that encourages
disturbed children to commit horrific acts.

Our society has a lot to answer for when we feed violence as
"entertainment" to our children, then think the solution to child
violence
lies
in lowering the age of criminal responsibility.
- Wendy Crew, Lane Cove.

I do wish the NSW Government would think first before announcing one of
its law-and-order knee jerks, because the ACT "toytown"
Government always copies!

The reality is that doli incapax (the rebuttable presumption that a
child cannot form a criminal intention between the ages of 10 and 14
years) is just not an issue. It is similar to the "intoxication defence"
in many ways as it is rarely relied upon by the defence and is even
more rarely successful, and yet there was a great show by this
Government in abolishing it.

Although the onus is on the prosecution to disprove the presumption, the
reality is that the defence lawyer collects evidence, where it is

available, to show the court that a particular child in this age group
was not capable of forming the criminal intention because of
learning
or intellectual disabilities or for some other valid reason.

I think I have done it once or twice in the past five years, including
one year as the Legal Aid Children's Court solicitor - so why
introduce legislation to remove judicial discretion when it is
appropriately applied in a very small number of cases? Give politicians
one
high-profile case and they really do go silly.
- Jennifer Saunders, President, ACT Council for Civil Liberties,
Canberra.


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