Hi Kirsty,

Thank you for being so eagle-eyed and thorough! I should have checked it over more 
carefully but I had too
many other things vying for attention and, as far as that goes, you have a lot more 
knowledge in this
department.
Thanks for drawing our attention to this and I hope the people who forwarded it will 
also send a follow-up.

Trudy

Kirsty Magarey wrote:

> Dear Trudy & co
>
> There's a bit of a problem with this petition, I think.  As far as I'm
> aware there is no Mandatory Sentencing of Juvenile Offenders Bill 1999.
> The NT mandatory sentencing legislation is contained in two statutes, the
> Juvenile Justice Act and the Sentencing Act 1995 (NT), (which was amended
> in 1988 (although those amendments weren't all punitive) by the Sentencing
> Amendment Act 1998 (NT)).
>
> The only legislation about mandatory sentencing that is currently before a
> Parliament (i.e. that is still in the form of a Bill) is before the
> Federal Parliament (not the NT Parliament) and is called the Human Rights
> (Mandatory Sentencing of Juvenile Offenders) Bill 1999 (it was introduced
> by Bob Brown).  As this Bill would be regarded by opponents of mandatory
> sentencing as a good thing, it doesn't make sense for this petition to
> call for its repeal (if that's what it's trying to do).
>
> What's more the difficulties with e-mail petitions are numerous, and
> include the fact that by the time these messages get delivered they will
> contain so many duplicated names that they are likely to be of less weight
> than a traditional hardcopy petition or letter.  Unfortunately the House
> of Reps won't accept electronic petitions at the moment, but unless people
> feel like individually e-mailing the politicians mentioned in this
> petition, and asking them to support measures to over-rule mandatory
> sentencing provisions (which is one good way of doing things... just not
> as a chain e-mail), then can I suggest that they check out the hardcopy
> petition on this issue at http://www.antar.org.au/mandatory_sentencing/
>
> In fact can I also suggest if you get this e-mail petition you respond by
> sending people this URL... because, however good-hearted it is, this
> particular e-mail petition is inaccurate and badly organised (and could be
> counterproductive!).
>
> Thanks,
> Kirsty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trudy and Rod Bray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:21 AM
> To: RecOzNet2
> Subject: [recoznet2] Mandatory sentencing petition
>
> Subject: Fw: mandatory sentencing
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:40:17 +1100
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
> >
>      We, the undersigned Australians, request that the Northern
> Territory
> Government repeal the Mandatory Sentencing of Juvenile Offenders  Bill
> 1999
> immediately.
> We believe the recent death of a fifteen year old  Aboriginal boy who
> was being detained in Darwin under the Territory's  mandatory sentencing
>
> laws was avoidable. We believe the Mandatory Sentencing  of Juvenile
> Offenders Bill 1999 is
> discriminatory, disrespectful, morally  abhorrent, racist and unjust.
> The Mandatory Sentencing Bill takes the  responsibility for law and
> order away from the local custodians of the law  in each Aboriginal
> community
> in the Territory.
> Despite the Royal  Commission's Inquiry into Aboriginal Deaths in
> Custody and 339  recommendations later, Aboriginal people are still 14
> times
> more likely to  be imprisoned than non-Aboriginal Australians. In the
> Northern Territory,  72.8 per cent of the prison population is
> Aboriginal.
> This compares with  33.1% in Western Australia and 21.6% in Queensland.
> Does the Northern  Territory Government genuinely believe that
> mandatory sentencing laws are  making a real difference?
> There is a better way.
> We believe the boy's  local community and family could have undertaken
> >a
> more appropriate action  under customary law and the young boy would
> probably still be alive  today.
> We urge you to consider enabling and supporting Aboriginal people in
> the Northern Territory to implement their own laws as  responsible,
> respectful and valid, ways of dealing with offensive law  breaking
> behaviour.
> >
> Yours sincerely,
> 1. Nicholas Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2.  Daniel Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 3. Jane Susak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 4. Aysen Mustafa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 5. Brian Rapsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 6. Dylan  Rapsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 7.  Simon Busch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 8.  Helen Razer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 9. Marj O'Callaghan
> 10. Helen Thal
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> INSTRUCTIONS:
>
> 1. Please send this email  in its entirety to all Australians
> that you think will support the  petition.
> 2. To avoid too many quotation marks,  please copy the text and
> paste it into a new email letter and send to as many  people as you
> can.
> 3. Before you send it, add  your name email address at the
> bottom of the list.
> 4.  If, once you have added your name and email address, you
> are the  20th person to sign the petition, please send it to the entire
> legislative  assembly in the Northern Territory (email addresses  are
> below).
> 5. Then delete the first 20 names  and sent it to you own
> recipients.
> 6. A short  personal message from you to some people on the
> legislative list will also  demand a response
> 7. Thank your for you support on  this important issue - we
> have the technology - let's use it to move it and  make a difference!
>
> TO:
>
> 1. Hon Peter Adamson MLA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2. Mr. John  Leonard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 3.  Mr. Stephen John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 4. The Hon.  Timothy Denney
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 5. The Hon.  Loraine Margaret
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 6.  Denis Gabriel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 7. Hon. Stephen  Dunham
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 8. Mr  Johan Wessel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 9. Mr  Stephen Paul
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 10. Mr Paul  Raymond
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 11. Mrs.  Margaret Anne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 12. Dr.  Richard Soon Huat
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 13. Hon.  Christopher Dennis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 14. Hon. Daryl  William
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 15. Ms. Clare  Majella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 16.  Hon. Terence Robert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 17.  Mr Terrence Kennedy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 18. Mr. Philip  Anthony
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 19.  Hon. Michael James
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 20. Hon. Eric  Houguet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 21.  Hon. Michael Anthony
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 22. Mr.  Maurice Joseph
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 23.  Mr Sydney James
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 24.  QC, The Hon. Shane Leslie
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 25. Mr. Peter  Howard
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]         Contacts For Petition:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Senior  Lecturer Workplace Learning and Organisational Development Unit
> School for Social, Community and Organisational Studies University of
> Western Sydney Nepean
> PO Box 10
> Kingswood, NSW 2747,  Australia
> ph: + 61 2 9678 7612
> Fax: + 61 2 9678 7120
>
> Peter  McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED]    & Social Studies University of
> Western Sydney Nepean
> PO Box 10
> Kingswood, NSW 2747,  Australia
> ph: + 61 2 96787356
> Fax 61 2 96787399
>

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