Maybe this is a case where ,even if it means losing the next election ,Labor
should oppose mandatory sentencing for no other reason than it is unjust.

Once people wake to the cons like mandatory sentencing  that have been
perpetrated against them by Howard, Court and their fellow lowlifes, they
will be looking for an alternative---Unfortunately, the way things are
going, they won't find one in the  Labor Party----they will be down in the
political gutter with the Coalition.

As far as the ALP is concerned,I think that unprincipled pragmatism has had
a fair run---time for a dose of untrammelled principle.

Laurie

Laurie and Desley Forde
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Without a treaty, which spells out the obligations and rights of both
parties, there can be no Reconciliation in Australia----Geoff Clark.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [recoznet2] WA's Gallop promises fight over mandatory
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> Trudy,
>
> Court is trying desperately to create divisions among the W.A State and
> Federal Labor Parties. He knows that in the West he is on a winner. I kid
> you not, if Gallup were to suggest in the West that mandatory sentencing
be
> abolished it could cost him the next election. On a nightly basis our TV
> screens at 6pm manage to feature horrific pictures of at least one old
> person who has been 'brutally bashed' (sic). If nothing has happened in
the
> ensuing 24 hours the TV moguls will find some angle to show similar
> pictures. If they are desperate they will import examples from other
States
> and present them with the minimum of reference as to where they came from
> thus inferring they are local.
>
> This continual bombardment at 6pm each evening has reduced the old people
of
> Perth to a terrified group, along with their relatives. There are groups
of
> old people who wish to bring back the death penalty - note how equivocal
our
> Premier is about this matter - and one of our Ministers even offered to
pull
> the handle. It is in this context that this problem in the West must be
> considered. Hence Geof Gallup's concern.
>
> ________________________________________________
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> Maughan
> ______________________________________________
>
> > WA's Gallop promises fight over mandatory sentencing
> >
> > Source: AAP|Published: Monday July 17, 6:55 AM
> >
> > The ALP is heading for debate over mandatory sentencing at its national
> > conference, with West Australian Labor leader Geoff Gallop
> > promising to raise his reservations of Labor's plan to overturn state
> > laws.
> >
> > Dr Gallop said he would argue at the conference in Hobart against
> > federal Opposition Leader Kim Beazley's pledge that a federal
> > Labor government would scrap mandatory sentencing laws.
> >
> > He said the WA laws were not as harsh as the Northern Territory
> > legislation, which is the focus of a legal challenge launched in the
> > United Nations Human Rights Committee in Geneva last week.
> >
> > "There will be general debates on Australia's sentencing laws and my
> > contribution will be... to explain that WA laws are tough, but they
> > are not unfair," Dr Gallop told the ABC.
> >
> > "And secondly, that it would be inappropriate and unwelcome to have any
> > federal intervention in what is essentially a state matter."
> >
> > West Australian Premier Richard Court said Labor was obviously divided
> > over the mandatory sentencing issue and called on WA Labor
> > members to stand up for state rights.
> >
> > "There is a unique opportunity for the Labor Party in this state to go
> > to their national conference in two weeks' time and get an iron-clad
> > guarantee that they will not interfere with Western Australia's
> > legislation," he said.
> >
> > The state executive of the West Australian Labor Party has formally
> > rejected Dr Gallop's views and endorsed Mr Beazley's position.
>
>
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