That is absolutely correct. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with what is a Christian value. Tony Pitt -----Original Message----- From: Trudy Bray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 2:25 To: news-clip; news-clip Subject: The Australian: Churches angered by attack on rights The churches' position on this is akin to John Howard's love of democracy - it's great until people's rights start interfering with what you want to do. --- Trudy ================================================= The Australian Churches angered by attack [sic] on rights By Benjamin Haslem 30oct00 CHURCH groups have demanded the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission scrap its guidelines on religious discrimination in employment because they attack the freedom of religion. The churches' anger comes as a showdown looms between the federal Government and the human rights commission, with Attorney-General Daryl Williams expected to conclude the guidelines are wrong in law. Anglicare NSW, the Wesley Mission, Baptist Community Services and the Salvation Army have told the commission its second-draft guidelines attack the churches' freedom of religion. The commission withdrew its original draft guidelines earlier this month, saying it wanted to clear up misunderstandings, after howls of protests from churches and Employment Services Minister Tony Abbott. The commission drew up the original guidelines in response to religious groups' participation in the Government's Job Network after some church agencies were accused of refusing to employ non-Christians. In a letter to the commission, the groups argue that the guidelines put individual rights ahead of the churches'. "You say that: The right of religion and belief ... includes the right of religious organisations to practise and express their religion. It also includes the right of individuals not to be discriminated against because of their religion," the letter says. "However ... you simply assume that where the two human rights come into conflict, the individual right must prevail. You have no justification in doing this." A senior government source said Mr Williams had reviewed the commission's first-draft paper, released in August, and concluded it was not entirely legally exacting and was misleading of the law. "And because the second draft doesn't really change very much, except the tone, he would have similar problems with the second draft," the source said. Mr Williams refused to comment on whether the latest draft was wrong in law. "He is pleased to note that the commission's been meeting with interested people who made submissions on the first guidelines ... and that they are likely to take into account further submissions," a spokeswoman for Mr Williams said. Mr Abbott previously said the guidelines failed to protect freedom of religion and would have the effect of disqualifying religious organisations from running schools, hospitals and nursing homes. "I'm far from convinced that all of those concerns have been addressed in the latest document," Mr Abbott said yesterday. The human rights commission paper outlines exceptions under its act where religious organisations may discriminate, such as where the need for a person with the same beliefs as the employer is an inherent requirement for the job. ************************************************************************* This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." ------------------------------------------------------ RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words: unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/recoznet2%40paradigm4.com.au/