Thanks Guys,
I'm really just reading. I can't contribute anything substantive right 
now but am trying to follow what's happening.
Cheers,
-Brian

Jake Hilton wrote:

>No kidding! Good to have you Brian..
>
>Jake
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>On 4/9/06, a / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>Hey Brian,
>>What Ho??
>>This is a nice surprise.
>>
>>[a /]
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>Of Brian Lesser
>>Sent: 09 April 2006 20:20
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Red5] [Red5devs] [Red5commits] [649] lhubbard
>>
>>Hi John,
>>Actually Flash Communication Server only offered Flash Remoting. Flash
>>Media Server also provides loadVars, XML.sendAndLoad, an XMLSocket class
>>for setting up persistent connections, and a WebService class to call
>>Web Services without Remoting. There is also an XMLStreams class for
>>streaming XML over an XMLSocket.
>>I'm looking forward to seeing your presentation at Flash in the Can.
>>Cheers,
>>-Brian
>>
>>John Grden wrote:
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>>>Luke's right - with  FCS/FMS, if you wanted to get to a database, you
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>>can't
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>>>use objects like loadVars or XML.load() on the server side.  You have to
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>>use
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>>>remoting.  With Red5, that restriction doesn't exist.  If you need to
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>>talk
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>>>to a db, do it right there in your application with Red5.  Remoting would
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>>be
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>>>used for sending data objects to the client or for another server to
>>>communicate/look at your data on the red5 server etc.
>>>
>>>Does that help?
>>>
>>>On 4/9/06, Luke Hubbard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>wrote:
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>>>>Ok, I think I understand what people want. To be able to call remoting
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>>on
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>>>>another server. Thats a bit of a FMS hoop developers had to jump through
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>>to
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>>>>do things like connect to a database or preform some authentication I
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>>think.
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>>>>Since red5 is built on spring, and has remoting built in you dont need
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>>to
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>>>>use two servers. Infact I would advise against it. You can just use red5
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>>+
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>>>>hibernate or jdbc. There is still a use case for wanting to talk to
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>>another
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>>>>server via remoting, rtmp etc. I would call that client classes. They
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>>have
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>>>>not been built yet, but we do have the protocol codecs, so it should not
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>>be
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>>>>that hard. Expect to see them around 0.6 - 0.7.
>>>>
>>>>The tentative date for the release of 0.4 is, around the end of next
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>>week,
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>>>>perhaps the monday 17th. We are building back up the features using the
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>>new
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>>>>api. So far things are fitting together nicely. One thing to note is
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>>that
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>>>>streaming wont be improved yet, we are just porting the old code to work
>>>>with the new api. So the memory leak, which I havent had time to check
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>>might
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>>>>still be there. I saw Joachim say that if you remove the codec buffers
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>>in
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>>>>the xml it will fix the memory problem. I may be wrong though. We will
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>>be
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>>>>focusing on new streaming design for 0.5, steven is taking the lead.
>>>>
>>>>-- Luke
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>>Computing and Communications Services
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