Michael Klishin wrote:
On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 13:29 +1000, Dan Rossi wrote:
  
  
Im not a 100% java developer, I do many things so please be patient.
    

I'm sorry man, never meant to be rude ;)
  

No you arent but i think some care needs to be added for new comers and people who arent java people but flash people trying to implement it. Id like to help you create a better howto, in fact where is it man ? We should add stuff to the trac wiki and/or red5 blog at least. Give me a login and i can start !

I see. That is both good (Java is a great school of coding) and bad
(Java is an ocean and it takes a lifetime to swim it over) for Red5
newcomers.
  
Hmm its not the java technology as such, well Java5 has alot of stuff im finding appearing in the code so yeh learning the new bits as im going :) Its more to do with the red5 code itself or the technologies used within that (spring, log4j, jetty) and how everything is glued together and configured.


What configs do you mean? There are actual Jetty configs mixed with
Spring context files (which are not configs of any kind at all, they are
object containers actually... although they might contain configurers
and object processors).
  

Red5 configs within the conf directory and various examples configs how to setup other servlets, application servers in the future if you know what i mean ? Ie you meantioned in a different thread how to setup different caching, as i said im using the default configs until i work out how to configure stuff myself so better example configs on setting up caching or how to setup another caching system or links to the various settings would be nice.
If you mean deployment configuration, then it's a good idea to include
it in the documentation or at least provide links to Tomcat/JBoss
references.
  

I didnt mean application configs if thats what you mean.

I'd like to be guru at anything... but I'm just a "guru wannabe". ;)
  
Neither, maybe that was an over statement, maybe  "experienced at" is a better word :P

I'll get to the config part very shortly, as i like messing with settings to optimise anything and then maybe document stuff, but there is still unresolved issues in the red5 code itself, ive actually dug into alot of it to help resolve problems already so thats a priority. Next will be customising settings in the configs and the big one is customising logs and seperating the root spring/red5 messages for each application, as it will end up going to the last or first listener setup within an app very dodgy.



Try to change java call in Red5 bat launcher to javaw. javaw is the same
as java, it launches Java application by execution main method from the
class in the classpath, but it gives you no console view.
  
Ill check it out, however how to i set it up to start on boot and run in the background ? I guess it needs to be added into the services console ?

About live logs from the log file... I'm not sure how good admin console
is now but the quite easy way I see is to develop a Flex application
that recieves messages from Red5.
  
Ahh like a flash admin console to collect the logging in there like FMS ? Ive built quite a few flex apps atm, i could look into it just finishing setting up my new server and getting it stored in a data centre at the moment takes some time :\



This is a quite misleading way that had been show in the documentation
back to March or earlier...

When you run ant server you actually run server target (I mean build
target called "server"). It recompiles the server itself and then runs
it. You see that it's an overhead, no need to recompile Red5 everytime
you change a bit in your own application. Just compile it, package as
JAR, copy that JAR into appropriate location
(your-killer-app/WEB-INF/lib) and restart Red5.

  
ok each time you make a change just run ant jar or whatever , it gets added to the webapp lib directory and then ie on windows run the standalone red5 found in red5.bat ?

And again... we end up with a huge need for Red5 IDE on top of Eclipse
JDT ;)
  
a red5 specific plugin would be kiilla, i looked at eclipse plugins a while back still yet to actually make one.
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