Hello,

Hmm, interesting ?..

"top" says an even load of 15-19% when the problem occurs

Cpu0  : 19.6% us, 14.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 65.4% id,  0.0% wa,  0.3% hi,  0.3% si
Cpu1  : 17.2% us, 15.9% sy,  0.0% ni, 66.9% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu2  : 17.2% us, 15.9% sy,  0.0% ni, 66.9% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu3  : 16.9% us, 16.6% sy,  0.0% ni, 66.6% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:   2074848k total,  2022916k used,    51932k free,    78664k buffers
Swap:  2096472k total,   439104k used,  1657368k free,   934176k cached


It seems that something happens every 19 secs. I get this using "vmstat 
1"  .
Not easy to see if you don't use a fixed font, but every 19. line the 
cpu colum shows a higher value, and that is where the stream freezes.

$ vmstat 1
procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- 
----cpu----
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy 
id wa
 0  0 439104  65724  78632 928228    0    0     1     0    1     0  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  65916  78632 928228    0    0     0   136 1604  4221  1  1 
98  0
 4  0 439104  65916  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1518  3216 14 13 
72  0
 0  0 439104  66172  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1530  2448 33 30 
37  0
 0  0 439104  66324  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1582  3893  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  66580  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1410  3185  0  1 
99  0
 0  0 439104  66580  78632 928228    0    0     0   800 1432  3420  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  66900  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1494  3758  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  66900  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1594  4170  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67316  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1546  3907  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67316  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1587  4249  1  1 
97  0
 0  0 439104  67636  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1576  4000  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67628  78632 928228    0    0     0   124 1584  4124  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67692  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1532  4062  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67564  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1649  4412  2  1 
96  0
 0  0 439104  67564  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1436  4042  1  1 
98  0
 4  0 439104  67564  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1488  3915  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  67564  78632 928228    0    0     0   108 1444  3862  1  1 
99  0
 0  0 439104  67500  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1617  4221  3  1 
96  0
 0  0 439104  67500  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1478  4138  2  1 
97  0
 4  0 439104  67180  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1488  2910 19 18 
63  0
 1  0 439104  66988  78632 928228    0    0     0    16 1370  2127 33 26 
41  0
 0  0 439104  66660  78632 928228    0    0     0   192 1480  3449  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  66084  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1440  3261  1  0 
99  0
 0  0 439104  65364  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1551  3552  0  1 
99  0
 0  0 439104  65172  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1518  3750  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  64660  78632 928228    0    0     0   328 1602  3986  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63636  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1553  4016  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62796  78632 928228    0    0     0   136 1705  4250  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62748  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1490  3835  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62748  78632 928228    0    0     0     0 1563  4054  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62748  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1527  3882  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62724  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1746  4396  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62732  78632 928488    0    0     0   216 1482  3963  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62604  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1558  4116  2  1 
97  0
 0  0 439104  62284  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1574  3987  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62284  78632 928488    0    0     0     4 1649  4134  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1547  3916  1  1 
98  0
 4  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0    96 1485  3049 18 18 
64  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1519  3672  6  5 
88  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1477  3418  1  1 
99  0
 1  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1512  3694  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1481  3669  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0   136 1527  3839  0  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1561  4037  1  1 
98  0
 2  0 439104  62308  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1492  3739  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62300  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1708  4366  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62300  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1457  3664  1  0 
99  0
 0  0 439104  62300  78632 928488    0    0     0   200 1534  4074  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62300  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1575  4100  2  1 
97  0
 0  0 439104  62292  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1513  3885  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62284  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1610  4078  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62412  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1582  4078  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62412  78632 928488    0    0     0   252 1535  4156  2  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  62668  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1567  4088  1  1 
98  0
 1  0 439104  62668  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1511  3951  1  1 
99  0
 4  0 439104  62988  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1444  3024 18 17 
65  0
 0  0 439104  63076  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1379  2399 31 28 
41  0
 0  0 439104  63076  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1398  3212  1  1 
99  0
 1  0 439104  63076  78632 928488    0    0     0   180 1417  3218  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63076  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1513  3777  2  0 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63268  78632 928488    0    0     0    16 1517  3770  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63252  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1539  4031  1  1 
99  0
 0  0 439104  62732  78632 928488    0    0     0   296 1566  4155  1  2 
97  0
 0  0 439104  63052  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1504  3947  1  1 
98  0
 1  0 439104  63372  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1539  4031  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63372  78632 928488    0    0     0   660 1533  4080  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  63692  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1514  3811  1  1 
98  0
 1  0 439104  63692  78632 928488    0    0     0   208 1587  4357  1  1 
97  0
 1  0 439104  64012  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1714  4355  2  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  64012  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1595  4263  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  64012  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1535  4118  1  1 
98  0
 0  0 439104  64012  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1605  4145  1  1 
97  0
 0  0 439104  64084  78632 928488    0    0     0   304 1610  4054  1  1 
98  0
 4  0 439104  64084  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1408  3470  8  6 
86  0
 0  0 439104  64084  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1320  1711 42 39 
20  0
 0  0 439104  64084  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1431  3203  1  1 
99  0
 0  0 439104  64156  78632 928488    0    0     0     0 1459  3320  0  1 
99  0


Martin Schipper wrote:
> Hi Klaus,
>
> That sounds familiar indeed; If you monitor your CPU usage, is one CPU 
> doing 100% and the other almost 0%?
>
> Grtz,
>
> Martin
>
> Klaus wrote:
>   
>> I think I experince the same.
>>
>> I'm running a live webcam chat.  It's all published lived and not recorded.
>>
>> At first everything is working fine, but after a while (hours?) , the 
>> stream freezes. Also for a few seconds and then resumes. Even if red5 is 
>> only taking up less than 1mbit of bandwidth.
>>
>> It also takes up more and more memory. appserver-33 ?
>>
>> After I restart red5, it works fine again for a while. So at the moment 
>> I restart red5 when no one is online :p
>>
>> I'm running red5 0.6 rc1 on redhat enterprise 4, 2gb ram, 2 x 3.2ghz 
>> cpu's , java1_5
>>
>> Regard,
>> Klaus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin Schipper wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Ey Thijs,
>>>
>>> I use the trunk version (1681) today I'll try updating, I saw the 
>>> current Rev is 1700.
>>> I'm also wondering if others have experience with a heavily loaded 
>>> Red5 on a multiprocessor machine, does it use all processors?
>>>
>>> Tnx,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hoi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> what version of red5 are you using? There a bug with large flv's  
>>>> which is fixed, just wondering if you're already using that version  
>>>> or not..
>>>> check http://jira.red5.org/browse/SN-2 and http://jira.red5.org/ 
>>>> browse/APPSERVER-8 for details.
>>>>
>>>> grt,
>>>>
>>>> Thijs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 6-feb-2007, om 13:38 heeft Martin Schipper het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi peoples,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I found a nasty issue (or I'm doing something wrong ;)).
>>>>> I use Red5 as a streaming video server like used on http:// 
>>>>> www.geefme.nl/
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that when serving several different and big flv files
>>>>> (300MB+) and having more than 20 clients (some connecting, seeking or
>>>>> just watching) Red5 stops responding for a couple of seconds and than
>>>>> resumes.
>>>>>
>>>>> First I tested on a single core, single processor P4 3.0GHz. At 15~20+
>>>>> clients this event occurs frequently (freezing for a couple of  
>>>>> seconds)
>>>>> and the server has a CPU usage of 100%.
>>>>> Than I tested on a dual core, single processor Core2duo 2GHz. At the
>>>>> same amount of clients the same problems occurs but the CPU usage hits
>>>>> 25%...
>>>>> 20 clients is approximate 20~25Mbps of traffic and when the  
>>>>> application
>>>>> 'freezes', the traffic drops to 100Kbps and the CPU maxes out (single
>>>>> proc = 100% on the Core2duo system: 25%).
>>>>>
>>>>> For you're information; I run Debian Linux first with JRE 1.5 and  
>>>>> later
>>>>> with JRE 1.6 (tested with both JRE's). Both machines have 4GB  
>>>>> memory and
>>>>> the FLV's are served from a fileserver using NFS connected by a 1Gbps
>>>>> Ethernet connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I checked the logs I found out all IO uses the same thread.  
>>>>> Like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,621 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) giveMovie; found 7
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,621 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 512 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 512
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 1024 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 1024
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 33 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 33
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,622 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 56 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,623 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 56
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,623 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 256 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,623 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 256
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,623 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 128 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,623 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 128
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,624 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) 64 -- .flv
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,624 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) found: 64
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,760 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /62.45.13.69:1151
>>>>> [ERROR] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,764 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> FLVReader.error ) Check for KeyFramesCache
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,808 accessCheckerThread:(
>>>>> accessChecker.debug ) accessChecker run
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,816 accessCheckerThread:(
>>>>> ipAccessChecker.debug ) ipAccessChecker run
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:40,992 Thread-25:( messageFetcher.debug )
>>>>> Fetching message
>>>>> [ERROR] 2007-02-05 23:02:42,046 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> FLVReader.error ) Loaded KeyFramesCache for file
>>>>> /data/fcs/red5/_webapps/1euro50/streams/shar
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:42,047 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> flvPlayer.debug ) APPdisconnect. 81.68.67.83
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,577 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) giveLastMessage
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,605 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /82.192.92.180:55136
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,624 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) giveLastMessage
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,625 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /82.74.68.183:3902
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,627 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /212.187.62.65:3287
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,628 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /84.28.208.229:2588
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,636 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /84.26.48.12:1542
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,649 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) Success, APPconnect from /80.126.13.14:49991
>>>>> [DEBUG] 2007-02-05 23:02:43,651 SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0:(
>>>>> Application.debug ) giveLastMessage
>>>>>
>>>>> The first lines (flvPlayer.debug) are from my main application  
>>>>> handler.
>>>>> The 'error' line (Check for KeyFramesCache) is patched by me in the  
>>>>> Red5
>>>>> FLVReader class, as far as i know, the same call serves the file.  
>>>>> Please
>>>>> notice all debug calls come from the same thread
>>>>> "SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0", even the "Application.debug" lines  
>>>>> with
>>>>> "giveLastMessage" and the "APPconnect" messages, they're from a  
>>>>> totally
>>>>> different application running on the same server.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the 'freezing' problem is caused by the seek feature. Can it
>>>>> "hold" a thread for a while? It consumes a lot of CPU time (which is
>>>>> obvious though) but on a multiprocessor machine, the application  
>>>>> runs on
>>>>> only 1 processor..... So all other calls/buffering-routines stall  
>>>>> when a
>>>>> seek is performed, and seeking in a 300MB+ FLV file could take a  
>>>>> while I
>>>>> think :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Can it also be a threading issue?
>>>>> I already played with the configuration files, changed the max threads
>>>>> variables, even tried switching from Jetty to TomCat, but it makes no
>>>>> difference.
>>>>> In debugmode I see 2 SocketAcceptor processes but in both (production
>>>>> and develop) environments all debug messages come from
>>>>> "SocketAcceptorIoProcessor-0.0"; for all active applications; for all
>>>>> connected clients.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I take advantage of a multiprocessor system?
>>>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Schipper
>>>>>
>>>>>
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