I might be missing some context here? What about sun app server?

Dan Rossi-5 wrote:
> 
> Thats a sun app server you mean ? Might be a Q for the main guys I guess
> :)
> 
> sharrissf wrote:
>> Yep, that is what it does. In all honesty, some apps it flat out just
>> works
>> out of the box with a little config that is very very short. In others it
>> takes a little more work. For instance, if the code already has a bunch
>> of
>> specialty code for serialization and clustering that can get in the way
>> :-). 
>> Or if it isn't written to be multi-threaded that can be a problem. We can
>> help out if it's something you guys are interested in. Integration is
>> very
>> important to us. Are you guys going to JavaOne?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Rossi-5 wrote:
>>   
>>> So it shares mutliple JVM's across a set of machines ? I think thats 
>>> what we need !
>>>
>>> sharrissf wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Terracotta is open source clustering for Java that integrates at the
>>>> bytecode
>>>> level. When it's up and running it dynamically moves clustered objects
>>>> (objects reachable from roots specified in a config) to where they need
>>>> to
>>>> be when they need to be there.
>>>>
>>>>  It basically extends the Java memory model so from a developer
>>>> perspective
>>>> it is a lot like taking a multi threaded single jvm application and
>>>> then
>>>> extending it to multiple jvms. Even wait and notify, synchronized and
>>>> object
>>>> identity are maintained across the cluster.
>>>>
>>>> For the people out there who don't want to deal with multi-threaded
>>>> programming etc we have config modules so the clustering can be used in
>>>> things like session and spring. Still get the fine grained change
>>>> replication, virtual heap, no Serializable needed and no extra
>>>> setAttributes.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, that was a pretty rushed description but check out
>>>> http://www.terracotta.org for more info. It's open source so if your
>>>> really
>>>> ambitous you can even check out the code.
>>>>
>>>> here is a nice article on it as well:
>>>> http://www.infoq.com/articles/open-terracotta-intro 
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan Rossi-5 wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> How does terracotta work ? Does it work like a hardware load balancer, 
>>>>> or do you connect to slave servers running an application which
>>>>> connect 
>>>>> to a master application.
>>>>>
>>>>> sharrissf wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I work over on terracotta. Please let us know if you need any help
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this. We feel pretty strongly over in our
>>>>>> community about helping people integrate and creating new config
>>>>>> modules.
>>>>>> Either jump on our forums, irc, or mailing lists and we'll help make
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> go smoothly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lenny Sorey-2 wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> DAn,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am hoping to be through testing RED5 with Terracotta ( a
>>>>>>> clustering
>>>>>>> solution) for Tomcat later on this week.
>>>>>>> The also uses JMX, so hopefully I can give you some feedback on this
>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I am testing it with three instances of Tomcat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far so good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lenny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/25/07, Dan Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Ok thanks mate so easy to add to the config ? I started searching
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> JMX integration in spring, there are JMX classes for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Red5 with JMX, comming soon...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/07, *Dan Rossi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     So there is no way to have JMX in red5 to monitor its
>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     jconsole ? Im still trying to work out if these outofmemory
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     swap space errors are problems with our servers resources or
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     issue with red5. Would be easy to work out if we were able to
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     it. I thought this debug proxy port was actually it but
>>>>>>>>> obviouslly
>>>>>>>>>     not,
>>>>>>>>>     is there an easy way to setup a JMX port to monitor within the
>>>>>>>>>     red5 config ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>     > Hi, going a bit crazy here, is there a way to be able to get
>>>>>>>>> JMX
>>>>>>>>>     working
>>>>>>>>>     > in red5, so im able to monitor the JVM its running on in the
>>>>>>>>> java
>>>>>>>>>     > wrapper service ? Having a few issues, im not really sure if
>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>     working
>>>>>>>>>     > properly, i cant see to set it up to use authentication
>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>     because
>>>>>>>>>     > its complaining about the jmx password file not being set as
>>>>>>>>>     read only.
>>>>>>>>>     > Ive been trying to set it to read only on the user the
>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>     > running as which is administrator.
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>     > Here is my config options
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>     > wrapper.java.additional.1=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.2=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=1099
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.3=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=true
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.4=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.5=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.password.file=C:\Red5\conf\jmxremote.password
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.6=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.access.file=C:\Red5\conf\jmxremote.access
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.7=-Dorg.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.mbean=true
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.java.additional.7=-Dorg.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.mbean.testing=false
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>     > the service wont start
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>     > C:/Red5/conf/jmxremote.password
>>>>>>>>>     > ERROR  | wrapper  | 2007/04/24 02:29:56 | JVM exited while
>>>>>>>>>     loading the
>>>>>>>>>     > application.
>>>>>>>>>     > STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/04/24 02:30:01 | Launching a JVM...
>>>>>>>>>     > INFO   | jvm 3    | 2007/04/24 02:30:01 | Error: Password
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     > access must be restricted: C:/Red5/conf/jmxremote.password
>>>>>>>>>     > ERROR  | wrapper  | 2007/04/24 02:30:01 | JVM exited while
>>>>>>>>>     loading the
>>>>>>>>>     > application.
>>>>>>>>>     > STATUS | wrapper  | 2007/04/24 02:30:05 | Launching a JVM...
>>>>>>>>>     > INFO   | jvm 4    | 2007/04/24 02:30:06 | Error: Password
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>     > access mu
>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>     > Let me know the jconsole seems quiter helpful to monitor the
>>>>>>>>>     thread and
>>>>>>>>>     > memory resources.
>>>>>>>>>     >
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