I also checked out the hibernate code, looks pretty easy enough. So you 
can build yourself an enmbedded data objects database from the xml 
mappings and the dataobject classes. I saw how you can even do multiple 
joins, so you pretty much roll your own embedded db :) However  what are 
the benefits using something like this compared to a standard sql server 
like mysql , would performance be better ?

Dan Rossi wrote:
> Just checked out your role based authentication code, that sounds more 
> complex for a webapp scenario than just for streaming but looks pretty 
> good. Im curious about the bandwidth detection code, how accurate is it. 
> As my ported code isnt accurate for latency connections , and it really 
> should utilise connection stat info available like pingtimes. Does the 
> bandwidth configurer API have options to check clients bandwidth or what ?
>
> Sebastian Wagner wrote:
>   
>> In fact I have started another project doing something quite similar 
>> but with other Client-Technologies:
>>
>> Using OpenLaszlo (Client) + Red5 (Remoting + Streaming)
>> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ 
>> <http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/>
>>
>> It has the same basic feature's from conferencing point of view:
>> - meeting rooms with 4x4 and *audience-rooms* 1xmany
>> - shared whiteboard (drawing, (re-)editable Text, Images, 
>> lines/shapes, dragNdrop, resizeable, storeable)
>> - document converters from various formats for usage on whiteboard
>> In addition it provides some basic features for private and public 
>> room handling (meaning some rooms are only for private usage while 
>> others are for public usage)
>>
>> regards
>> sebastian wagner
>>
>>
>> 2007/5/15, nomIad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>>
>>     Im not talking ONLY about the server, i talk about the flash
>>     client. So many things done the same way.
>>     Let me give an example. I set up a tutorial for acegi security on
>>     the red5 wiki.
>>     acegi use a standard way for authentication and authorisation. So,
>>     why dont we have these things client side to.
>>     Just as an example use an standard Principal System for
>>     applications. Life could be so much easier.
>>     Im not the one who like to code everytime the same stuff, flash
>>     and red5 based.
>>
>>     Or just another example a general way storing multiple attributes,
>>     connected to clients in a SO.
>>     A generalized object oriented way on extracting the UPDATED
>>     information and maybe even a standard way to automate your MVC
>>     apps models.
>>
>>     The more is standard, the faster you can work on your new stuff..
>>
>>     cu nomIad
>>
>>
>>     Dan Rossi schrieb:
>>     
>>>     There is already things like playback, publish and sharedobject 
>>>     security. But i know what you mean, and authentication / authorisation 
>>>     framework, those security features could be used to roll your own, but 
>>>
>>>     there does need to be some kind of bean you can just enable in your xml 
>>>     config which sets up an authentication plugin for you utilising also 
>>> the 
>>>     security methods. And you can customise the plugin yourself. It should 
>>>
>>>     be enabled with either an embedded db system like hibernate or jdbc 
>>> etc. 
>>>     I hear now though that rtmps isnt so easy to setup or not working yet 
>>> in 
>>>     red5 ? That would need to be enabled i guess to send secret keys or a 
>>>
>>>     login form to authenticate against. The problem ive yet to work out is 
>>>     if secret key loaded into the client via dynamic scripting is sniffable 
>>>     at runtime. Obviouslly it cant be stored in the swf.
>>>
>>>     nomIad wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>       
>>>>     Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>>     I think thats really funny. Ive done such an app too, 1 year ago.
>>>>     I used FMS, but was on the way to use Red5.
>>>>
>>>>     Some of us are doing pretty much the same thing, but there is no 
>>>>     FRAMEWORK related to that stuff?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Were all writing the cores of that without any standard way for 
>>>>     authentication, authorisation, etc.
>>>>     I think its time for a Flash Framework and Red5 kit for those sort of 
>>>>     apps...
>>>>
>>>>     cu nomiad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Storm schrieb:
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>         
>>>>>     Hi JOachim,congrats! that's pretty simmilar to my own app hehe, only 
>>>>>     that my "live audio and video communication" is not a "all see all" 
>>>>>     videoconf, it works more like a classroom where the teacher sees 
>>>>>
>>>>>     everyone but the pupils only (should) look at the teacher. We also 
>>>>>     figured out a way to share presentations. But then again, congrats on 
>>>>>     that!.
>>>>>     The only point i'm missing is the screen sharing (and remote 
>>>>> control), 
>>>>>
>>>>>     we've tried a few ideas to achieve that but they all were 
>>>>> improductive 
>>>>>     or too bandwidth greedy. Are you using only flash on client side for 
>>>>>     that? (that was one of my requirements). Hope you can throw some 
>>>>> light 
>>>>>
>>>>>     on this, it would be much appreciated.
>>>>>         
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