Getting a debug console of jconsole isnt much help either

jconsole -J-Djava.security.manager 
-J-Djava.security.policy=conf/red5.policy 
-J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=conf/jmx.truststore 
-J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=trustpass 
-J-Djava.security.debug=failure,logincontext,policy,scl,provider 
service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://localhost:9999/red5


Dan Rossi wrote:
> OK its all working now but with its default keystore and truststore. I 
> just tried to make my own like so and it wont connect !
>
> keytool -genkey -alias red5server -keyalg RSA -validity 36500 -keystore 
> conf/jmx.keystore -storepass storepass -keypass keypass -dname "CN=Dan 
> Rossi, OU=IT, O=Red5, L=Sydney,S=NSW, C=AU"
>
> keytool -export -alias red5server -keystore conf/jmx.keystore  -rfc 
> -file conf/red5jmx.cer -storepass storepass
>
> keytool -import -alias red5servercert -file conf/red5jmx.cer -keystore 
> conf/jmx.truststore -storepass trustpass -noprompt
>
> running red5 with args
>
> -Djava.security.manager
> -Djava.security.policy=conf/red5.policy
> -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
> -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=conf/jmx.keystore
> -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=storepass
>
>
> jconsole
>
> jconsole -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=conf/jmx.truststore 
> -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=trustpass -J-Djava.security.manager 
> -J-Djava.security.policy=conf/red5.policy 
> service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://localhost:9999/red5
>
> Wont connect just hangs.
>
> If run i rmiregistry via command line rather than adding into code red5 
> takes a while to start
>
> rmiregistry -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=conf/jmx.truststore 
> -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=gokvodJo -J-Djava.security.manager 
> -J-Djava.security.policy=conf/red5.policy 9999&
>
>
> both ways jconsole hangs for ages trying to authenticate the ssl and 
> then fails to connect. I cant seem to add the login via command line but 
> it would usually ask to authenticate after connecting. Something is up 
> with the created keystore / truststore :\
>
> Dan Rossi wrote:
>   
>> Just worked it out if you need ssl support you need to also add the ssl 
>> args to rmiregistry
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>>
>> rmiregistry -J-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=conf/keystore.jmx 
>> -J-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password 
>> -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=conf/truststore.jmx 
>> -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=trustword -J-Djava.security.manager 
>> -J-Djava.security.policy=conf/red5.policy 9999 &
>>
>>
>> Ive added the same args to red5, jconsole and rmiregistry.
>>
>> I think personally it would be easier to create the registry in code ?
>>
>> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Found the bug, you need to create it via code
>>>
>>> running
>>>
>>> rmiregistry 9999 &
>>>
>>> wont work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Paul ive tested this code and works perfect, it sets the registry for 
>>>> you. Is this not desireable ?
>>>>
>>>> if (enableRmiAdapter) {
>>>>             // Create an RMI connector server
>>>>             log.debug("Create an RMI connector server");
>>>>             try {
>>>>                 // create registry for rmi port 9999
>>>>                 
>>>> LocateRegistry.createRegistry(Integer.valueOf(rmiAdapterPort));
>>>>
>>>>                 //ensure we are not already registered with the registry
>>>>                 Registry r = LocateRegistry.getRegistry(Integer
>>>>                         .valueOf(rmiAdapterPort));
>>>>
>>>> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Just got this again, i dont want to have to try and enable rmiregistry 
>>>>> all the time, wont work too well on windows as we run red5 as a service.
>>>>>
>>>>>      [java] [WARN] 9948 main:( org.red5.server.jmx.JMXAgent.init ) Could 
>>>>> not establish RMI connection to port 9999, please make sure 
>>>>> "rmiregistry" is running and configured to listen on this port.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it work best starting it up via code ?
>>>>>
>>>>> java.rmi.registry.LocateRegistry.createRegistry(9000);
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that how it works ? I found it here
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=703567&messageID=4401137
>>>>>
>>>>> Mondain wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Actually i noticed that the shutdown.bat is in error.. the build.xml 
>>>>>> is acurate with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             <!-- enable the following 5 lines if your using jmx with 
>>>>>> ssl and auth -->
>>>>>>             <!--
>>>>>>             <jvmarg value="- 
>>>>>> Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=${config.dir}/truststore.jmx"/>
>>>>>>             <jvmarg 
>>>>>> value="-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=trustword"/>       
>>>>>>             <arg value="9999"/>
>>>>>>             <arg value="red5user"/>
>>>>>>             <arg value="changeme"/>
>>>>>>             -->
>>>>>> in the shutdown target..
>>>>>> and for server startup i used this section...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             <!-- enable the following 2 lines if your using jmx with 
>>>>>> ssl -->
>>>>>>             <!--
>>>>>>             <jvmarg 
>>>>>> value="-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=${config.dir}/keystore.jmx"/>
>>>>>>             <jvmarg 
>>>>>> value="-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password"/>       
>>>>>>             -->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> notice that the passwords are different..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/07, *Dan Rossi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     jconsole -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=conf/truststore.jmx
>>>>>>     -J-Djavax.net.ssl.trustStorePassword=password
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     red5user / changeme
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     just tried this and still wont connect :\
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This is what the VM says in the local management for the eclipse
>>>>>>     arguments
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
>>>>>>     -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=conf/keystore.jmx
>>>>>>     -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password
>>>>>>     -agentlib:jdwp=transport=dt_socket,suspend=y,address=localhost:51466
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     > apologies I didnt see that. Has that been my issue all along ? The
>>>>>>     > server uses the keystore args, and jconsole uses the trustore
>>>>>>     args ? Ive
>>>>>>     > never been able to work out how to build the trustore file, is the
>>>>>>     > trustore just a copy of the keystore ? I dont think it is
>>>>>>     because it
>>>>>>     > wont let me connect :)
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >> I believe you have to use the "truststore.jmx" when you connect
>>>>>>     with
>>>>>>     >> jconsole. I havent tried it yet but i did use the shutdown
>>>>>>     script with it.
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >> Paul
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >> On 5/13/07, * Dan Rossi* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     Hi thanks for that however i still cant connect to it. I
>>>>>>     have these
>>>>>>     >>     flags set in the eclipse debug argument window
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
>>>>>>     >>     -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=conf/keystore.jmx
>>>>>>     >>     -Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     I run jconsole like
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     jconsole -J-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStore=conf/keystore.jmx
>>>>>>     >>     -J-Djavax.net.ssl.keyStorePassword=password
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     I connect like
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://192.168.1.1:9999/red5
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     red5user : changeme
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     I still cant connect, have never been able to.
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     > the password is actually in the red5-common.xml.. its
>>>>>>     "password" :)
>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     > On 5/13/07, *Dan Rossi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>>>>     >>     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     Paul sorry to bug you again, im not really up with
>>>>>>     keystores
>>>>>>     >>     in java
>>>>>>     >>     >     only ssl certs, what is the pass for the example one
>>>>>>     to test
>>>>>>     >>     with. I
>>>>>>     >>     >     think the ssl problem may be that i havent set it up
>>>>>>     right
>>>>>>     >>     and the
>>>>>>     >>     >     adding the same java args to jconsole hasnt seem to
>>>>>>     work for me
>>>>>>     >>     >     yet, so
>>>>>>     >>     >     i guess using this example keystore as a start could
>>>>>>     be good.
>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     > I added (and tested) SSL and Auth with the latest
>>>>>>     trunk,
>>>>>>     >>     you should
>>>>>>     >>     >     > update to it and look at the configuration updates
>>>>>>     >>     specifically the
>>>>>>     >>     >     > red5-common.xml. I believe your remote stuff will work
>>>>>>     >>     now. Also
>>>>>>     >>     >     the
>>>>>>     >>     >     > build.xml has settings for using ssl and auth in
>>>>>>     server_java6,
>>>>>>     >>     >     > server_java5, and shutdown if you need examples
>>>>>>     (they are
>>>>>>     >>     >     disabled by
>>>>>>     >>     >     > default)
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     > Paul
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     > On 5/10/07, *Dan Rossi* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     I was hoping to ditch remoting altogether for now
>>>>>>     >>     because it
>>>>>>     >>     >     just
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     doesnt
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     work the way it should, i cant get it connected or
>>>>>>     >>     authenticated
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     either.
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     However i cant load red5 locally it seems via
>>>>>>     the java
>>>>>>     >>     wrapper
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     service
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     # JMX
>>>>>>     >>     >     >    
>>>>>>     wrapper.java.additional.4=-Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote
>>>>>>     >>     >     >    
>>>>>>     -Dcom.sun.management.config.file=../conf/jmx.properties
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     Wont bring it up in the local list.
>>>>>>     >>     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     > I think this is the setting to protect the
>>>>>>     rmi via
>>>>>>     >>     ssl but
>>>>>>     >>     >     still
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     no luck
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     > getting the client to authenticate
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     > com.sun.management.jmxremote.registry.ssl=true
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     > Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> Seems like u can only use the url below now,
>>>>>>     rather
>>>>>>     >>     than the
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     remote tab
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> in jconsole, still cant connect though
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> what does this mean then, is it still needed
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> # JMX RMI Agent
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> #com.sun.management.jmxremote.port=8004
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>> woops it was localhost, tried everything
>>>>>>     even have
>>>>>>     >>     ssl and
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     auth off and
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>> it wont connect via jconsole
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://192.168.1.2:8005/red5
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>> Should the jmx port be turned off or does rmi
>>>>>>     >>     connect to
>>>>>>     >>     >     this
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     ? Does the
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>> rmi registry need to load the jmxconfig
>>>>>>     aswell ?
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>> Its letting me connect without ssl or a
>>>>>>     password :\
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>> Dan Rossi wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>> Ok what is the difference of the
>>>>>>     rmiregistry to
>>>>>>     >>     the jmx
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     management port
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>> , sorry its gone over my head. Im still
>>>>>>     trying to
>>>>>>     >>     >     attempt to
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     secure it
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>> with login / ssl with no luck.
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>> Mondain wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> You run this at any time before starting
>>>>>>     red5
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> windows
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> %JAVA_HOME%\jre\bin\rmiregistry.exe <port>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> linux
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> $JAVA_HOME/jre/bin/rmiregistry <port> &
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> Replace port with the port of your choice..
>>>>>>     >>     default
>>>>>>     >>     >     should
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     be 9999
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> (this is detailed in the HOWTO btw)
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> In addtion, starting red5 with the
>>>>>>     command "ant
>>>>>>     >>     server"
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     will also
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> start the rmi registry for you if it is
>>>>>>     enabled
>>>>>>     >>     in the
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> build.properties (default)
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>> On 5/10/07, *Dan Rossi* <
>>>>>>     [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>     >>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     It now says rimregistry is not
>>>>>>     running, what is
>>>>>>     >>     >     it, how
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     could i start
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     such a thing on the command to start
>>>>>>     red5 ?
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     Thijs Triemstra | Collab wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     > I got the same error here with r2008,
>>>>>>     >>     using ant
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     server, and opened
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     http://jira.red5.org/browse/APPSERVER-125
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     > Thijs
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     > On May 10, 2007, at 2:40 AM, Dan
>>>>>>     Rossi
>>>>>>     >>     wrote:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >> Just got this in eclipse debug
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >> [ERROR] 4938 main:(
>>>>>>     >>     >     org.red5.server.jmx.JMXAgent.init )
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >> java.rmi.ConnectException: 
>>>>>> Connection
>>>>>>     >>     refused
>>>>>>     >>     >     to host:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     192.168.1.1 <http://192.168.1.1>
>>>>>>     <http://192.168.1.1>
>>>>>>     >>     <http://192.168.1.1>
>>>>>>     >>     >     < http://192.168.1.1> <http://192.168.1.1>;
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >> nested exception is:
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >>     java.net.ConnectException:
>>>>>>     >>     Connection refused
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >     >     >>>>>>     >
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>>>>>>     revere. -
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>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     >
>>>>>>     >>     > --
>>>>>>     >>     > It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. -
>>>>>>     >>     Voltaire
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>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >>
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>>>>>>     >> --
>>>>>>     >> It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. -
>>>>>>     Voltaire
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>>>>>>     
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>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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