Thanks. I'll have to track down that txt file I guess. If you have a
chance to create a doc on this like you're offering, I'd be very
greatful.

Dave

On Oct 24, 7:24 am, markus giesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There should be a little what like a documentation in your
> readme.txt(depending on your version) coming with your installation of
> RD i think.
> Not that much but maybe I'll be able to create a explaining docu for
> the audience in the next days..
>
> On 23 Okt., 21:13, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > .Headline returns the actual page title, but you can access any other
> > page elements and properties from the Context tag
> > You can also use Page GUID if you want...
>
> > Good question about Navigation Manager documentation. I can't find in
> > on the community site, we have a paper book from the training.  You
> > can ask RedDot support if they can send it to you in digital format.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Irina
>
> > On Oct 23, 2:52 pm, Dave R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > So... we could just grab that from the nav manager then.
>
> > > It might work. All of our subsites will be linked through a master
> > > link called "Offices and Services" You can see it 
> > > here:http://www.gsu.edu/offices_services.html. So a subsite would appear
> > > here:http://www.gsu.edu/es/
>
> > > If everything is set up like that, I could grab the department name by
> > > grabbing the name of the page whose parent is "Offices and Services"
> > > right? Would that pull the site map name or the actual page name?
>
> > > BTW, where are all of the navigation manager tags documented?
>
> > > Dave
>
> > > On Oct 23, 2:39 pm, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Not sure what your navigation structure is, but you can get the
> > > > department value from the Context and your Path Array:
> > > > <%!! Context:CurrentIndex.GetPathArrray()[Int:1].Headline  !!%>
>
> > > > Another option is to have opt_Department variable on each page, and
> > > > make users to assign it every time when the new page is created.
>
> > > > Irina
>
> > > > On Oct 23, 1:23 pm, Dave R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Ok, that makes a bit more sense.
>
> > > > > The question is... how do you trigger those pages to grab the right
> > > > > department info? Would you have to do it off the navigation manager
> > > > > somehow? It just seems to me that if you do something like that if you
> > > > > move the subsite to another location, that department flag will change
> > > > > as well.
>
> > > > > On Oct 23, 12:02 pm, "Smith Paul \(SLH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I think what Irina was trying to suggest was the creation of some 
> > > > > > little pre-executing scripts in your foundation page to allow you 
> > > > > > to show/hide parts of your page based upon some variables. This 
> > > > > > doesn't involve creating multiple foundation pages, just a little 
> > > > > > bit of careful planning.
>
> > > > > > These could be standard text fields within the page, allowing for a 
> > > > > > default value in each child site. Alternatively you could replace 
> > > > > > the stf with a variable and create a separate file where you set 
> > > > > > values for each variable and include it into the head of each page. 
> > > > > > This second option would then allow you to set the values for each 
> > > > > > site in once place.
>
> > > > > > We've got something similar to allow us to have multiple layouts 
> > > > > > with one foundation page and it works well. We've also using the 
> > > > > > config file approach to allow us to easily manage things like 
> > > > > > Webtrends and GoogleAnalytics IDs for each child site
>
> > > > > > Paul
>
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > > > > On Behalf Of Dave R
> > > > > > Sent: Thu, October 23,2008 15:51
> > > > > > To: RedDot CMS Users
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Just moved to 7.5: Trimming Foundations down to 1 with 
> > > > > > multiple subsites
>
> > > > > > OK, well... here's where you are loosing me.
>
> > > > > > 1) We want one foundation and we want to use the navigation manager
> > > > > > and not target containers.
> > > > > > 2) By creating an instance of that foundation for each department, 
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > would be doing the same thing we are now and would still need to use
> > > > > > target containers.
> > > > > > 3) If we did use the navigation manager and killed the target
> > > > > > containers, we would have to manually put in the department name/
> > > > > > fields with each page in the site we create with that foundation.
>
> > > > > > What am I missing here? It just seems to me that I can't set that
> > > > > > standard field dynamically with a page definition.
>
> > > > > > Dave
>
> > > > > > On Oct 23, 9:26 am, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey,
>
> > > > > > > Your solution will be one foundation template with some 
> > > > > > > pre-executed
> > > > > > > script to display custom elements. An instance of the foundation 
> > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > will be created for each department, or for each subsite.
>
> > > > > > > 1.  Create one re-usable foundation page. Add placeholder called
> > > > > > > stf_Department (or opt_Department)
> > > > > > > 2.  Create instance of the foundation page for each department. 
> > > > > > > Assign
> > > > > > > stf_Department value for each instance
> > > > > > > 3.  Add pre-executed script around each custom block. Example
> > > > > > > <%
> > > > > > > if <%stf_Department%> = "Department One" Then
> > > > > > > %>
> > > > > > >   //display navigation list and navigation image for About Us 
> > > > > > > section
> > > > > > > <%img_DepartmentOne%>
> > > > > > > <%lst_DepartmentOne%> ...
>
> > > > > > > <%End if %>
> > > > > > > Most likely it will be a case statement based on all possible 
> > > > > > > values
> > > > > > > of stf_Department
>
> > > > > > > Note that you can also use transfer element to pass standard field
> > > > > > > from a page in a target container to a foundation page.
>
> > > > > > > Hope it helps,
> > > > > > > Irina
> > > > > > > CGI RedDot Team
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 22, 11:49 am, Dave R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > > > I'm with Georgia State University. We've been using RedDot CMS 
> > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > since about 2005 and I just found out about this group. I 
> > > > > > > > apologize,
> > > > > > > > but this is going to be a long first post with a couple of 
> > > > > > > > questions
> > > > > > > > introduced throughout.
>
> > > > > > > > We're about to embark on our first major redesign since then 
> > > > > > > > and with
> > > > > > > > 7.5 we will want to make the most out of the navigation manager 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > page definitions. One of the main problems we're having at the 
> > > > > > > > moment
> > > > > > > > is how do we build a single foundation that works for every 
> > > > > > > > thing. Let
> > > > > > > > me give you a few examples:
>
> > > > > > > > Our Current Homepage:http://www.gsu.edu/
> > > > > > > > The main nav is currently the top nav bar. The left nav is more 
> > > > > > > > user/
> > > > > > > > informational specific. Everything there should have a main 
> > > > > > > > home under
> > > > > > > > the top nav. With the redesign, we'll make this arrangement more
> > > > > > > > clear.
>
> > > > > > > > A Current Subsite:http://www.gsu.edu/es/
> > > > > > > > A major point of concern is getting the graphic banner for the
> > > > > > > > department (right under the horizontal nav) worked into the 
> > > > > > > > foundation
> > > > > > > > without creating a new foundation. Another issue is ensuring 
> > > > > > > > that only
> > > > > > > > the navigation for that subsite shows in the left. All subsites 
> > > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > now run through the Offices & Services link in the top navbar 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > that's reflected in the breadcrumbing. I'm thinking this is 
> > > > > > > > easy if we
> > > > > > > > have our logic right for the navigation manager.
>
> > > > > > > > Another thing to know is that everything right now is of course 
> > > > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > using target containers.
>
> > > > > > > > So, the question at this point really is: How do we build a 
> > > > > > > > foundation
> > > > > > > > that will have the potential to display custom elements without 
> > > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > to create a new foundation? What's the best practice here?
>
> > > > > > > > The next thing is what we are looking at in the future. We 
> > > > > > > > recently
> > > > > > > > did have to create a new template for our Undergraduate 
> > > > > > > > Admissions
> > > > > > > > group. They didn't have the time to wait for the full redesign 
> > > > > > > > and we
> > > > > > > > wanted to test some things out. The version of the site that is 
> > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > has been built using RD 6.5 not 7.5 and is target container 
> > > > > > > > based. We
> > > > > > > > have several elements that are only used on certain pages such 
> > > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > left navbar and a flash banner.
>
> > > > > > > > So, the question here again is: How do we build a foundation 
> > > > > > > > that will
> > > > > > > > have the potential to display custom elements without having to 
> > > > > > > > create
> > > > > > > > a new foundation?
>
> > > > > > > > This design is very close to what we hope will go live, but the
> > > > > > > > marketing/design group hasn't actually designed it yet. This is 
> > > > > > > > solely
> > > > > > > > based on the wireframe we think will resolve our biggest 
> > > > > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > > > > Here's the site:
> > > > > > > > Main Home:http://www.gsu.edu/admissions/
> > > > > > > > Audience Home:http://www.gsu.edu/admissions/highschoolindex.html
> > > > > > > > Basic Page:http://www.gsu.edu/admissions/28285.html
>
> > > > > > > > I'm not so much worried about inserting a photo at the top of 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > page. That can be handled through various content classes 
> > > > > > > > within the
> > > > > > > > content area. It's the fact that some pages will not require a 
> > > > > > > > left
> > > > > > > > navigation bar or flash banner which will always be above the 
> > > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > > navigation. Then there's that whole navigation problem itself.
>
> > > > > > > > How would you all handle these issues? We have well over 30 
> > > > > > > > subsites
> > > > > > > > that will need to be rebuild/redesigned with the new template 
> > > > > > > > so this
> > > > > > > > is very important.
>
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