That exactly what I'm doing, and yes, I'm getting a SoapException.I
wish it would just reply with an error in the response as opposed to
throwing a soap exception, but oh well.

I think you're idea will work. I was hoping for a solution without a
workaround, but that will have to do.
For now, I'm just telling the user to go logout themselves.
I have more issues with reddot to figure out now.

New post coming soon!

On Jan 5, 3:52 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are you using a .NET application to call the webservice? I think that
> you are considering that you get a SoapException.
>
> Anyway, why don't you have an ASP file on the server that simply
> returns the session login. Since the ASP script doesn't crash if the
> user is already logged in, it will always work. You can then have your
> webservice first call the ASP file, get the session guid, and then
> continue with your operations. I know it sounds like more than what's
> needed, but I think it will work more effectively than anything else.
>
> On Jan 5, 12:42 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I shall :). Let me know if you come up with a solution.
>
> > On Jan 5, 12:01 pm, Kareem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > So maybe you can bash your head against your desk too. :)
>
> > > On Jan 5, 2:59 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Oh wonderful... I didn't even see that. Hmm...
>
> > > > On Jan 5, 11:51 am, Kareem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You mean this notation as a placeholder for me to put the value in
> > > > > right? [!guid_login!]
> > > > > I'll have nothing to fill it with. I don't know the login guid.
>
> > > > > I'm starting to think this isn't possible. Surprising something so
> > > > > basic isn't possible.
>
> > > > > On Jan 5, 2:06 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > How about this... You can check with RQL if a user is logged in 
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > the following:
>
> > > > > > <IODATA loginguid="[!guid_login!]">
> > > > > >   <ADMINISTRATION>
> > > > > >     <USERS userguid="[!guid_user!]" action="connectlist"/>
> > > > > >   </ADMINISTRATION>
> > > > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > > > You can get the user guid from the database as I mentioned in my 
> > > > > > prior
> > > > > > post. In your response XML, you will find the login guid if the user
> > > > > > is logged in. You can then retrieve the session variable or log the
> > > > > > user out before logging in.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 5, 5:51 am, Kareem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > hmm. The issue is using the login rql statement causes the 
> > > > > > > webservice
> > > > > > > to throw an exception, so I get zero information  back on the 
> > > > > > > logged
> > > > > > > in user.
> > > > > > > I'm only left with the username and password entered.
> > > > > > > I'm running this from outside of reddot, so I don't have access 
> > > > > > > to its
> > > > > > > session variables.
>
> > > > > > > Here's a thought. Is there some super user than can query all 
> > > > > > > logged
> > > > > > > in users and retrieve their session keys? Or perhaps I can make a 
> > > > > > > user
> > > > > > > just for this application.
>
> > > > > > > Is there a query for a user by name to retrieve their current 
> > > > > > > login
> > > > > > > guid? I could then use that to log them out.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 4, 3:50 am, akor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Ah sorry, one thing more, you can get the session key then by 
> > > > > > > > this:
> > > > > > > >     sRQLRequest   = "<IODATA loginguid='" & strLoginGUID &
> > > > > > > > "'><ADMINISTRATION action='validate' guid='" & strLoginGUID &
> > > > > > > > "'><PROJECT guid='" & strProjectGUID & "' /></ADMINISTRATION></
> > > > > > > > IODATA>"
>
> > > > > > > > -alex
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 11:31 am, akor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Hi Kareem,
>
> > > > > > > > > Try this:
>
> > > > > > > > >   Public Function GetLoginGuid(strLoginUser,strLoginPass)
> > > > > > > > >     sRQLRequest   = "<IODATA><ADMINISTRATION action='login' 
> > > > > > > > > name='" &
> > > > > > > > > strLoginUser & "' password='" & strLoginPass & "'/></IODATA>"
> > > > > > > > >     Set oRQLResponse  = SendRQLRequest(sRQLRequest)
> > > > > > > > >     Set oNode = oRQLResponse.selectSingleNode("//LOGIN")
> > > > > > > > >     If oNode Is Nothing Then
> > > > > > > > >       Response.Write "ERROR: No LoginGUID found..."
> > > > > > > > >       Exit Function
> > > > > > > > >     End If
> > > > > > > > >     strLoginGUID =  oNode.GetAttribute("guid")
> > > > > > > > >     If (sError="#RDError101") Then
> > > > > > > > >       Call LogOut(strLoginGUID)
> > > > > > > > >       Call GetLoginGuid(strLoginUser,strLoginPass)
> > > > > > > > >     End If
> > > > > > > > >     GetLoginGuid = strLoginGUID
> > > > > > > > >     Set oRQLResponse = Nothing
> > > > > > > > >     Set oNode = Nothing
> > > > > > > > >   End Function
>
> > > > > > > > > I wrote this function for SOAP & WSDL. It logins you with the 
> > > > > > > > > provided
> > > > > > > > > credentials and grabs the Login GUID. If the User is already 
> > > > > > > > > logged
> > > > > > > > > in, it calls a LogOut function and the Login Function again.
>
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > -alex
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2:56 am, Kareem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > That's the problem. I have nothing more than a username and 
> > > > > > > > > > password
> > > > > > > > > > typed in by the user. I have no login guid, no user guid, 
> > > > > > > > > > and no
> > > > > > > > > > session key.
> > > > > > > > > > I can't do anything without a login guid, so I'm stuck.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 7:39 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... Never worked with the webservice, and so I'd be a 
> > > > > > > > > > > little lost
> > > > > > > > > > > there... However, why don't you just ignore the error and 
> > > > > > > > > > > then request
> > > > > > > > > > > the session key? That is what I do in some of my other 
> > > > > > > > > > > scripts...
> > > > > > > > > > > Basically, I send the user guid and receive the 101 error 
> > > > > > > > > > > because I am
> > > > > > > > > > > currently logged in. I ignore the error and then send the 
> > > > > > > > > > > same login
> > > > > > > > > > > guid to get the session key and it works. Have you tried 
> > > > > > > > > > > that? I then
> > > > > > > > > > > use the user guid and the session key for all my other 
> > > > > > > > > > > queries.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 1:01 pm, Kareem <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I will be integrating something else into RedDot, so 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that session
> > > > > > > > > > > > information is good know. Thanks!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What I'm working on now though is an external tool, so 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I have to
> > > > > > > > > > > > retrieve all the information from the webservice.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > How do you retrieve the session key when you don't have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the login
> > > > > > > > > > > > guid? Its required in the IODATA element.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm also trying to retrieve the list of project for the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > user, which
> > > > > > > > > > > > needs the user guid. All that information is in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > response for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > login action which is failing because the user is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > already logged in.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2:08 pm, bushland25 <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are launching the script from a RedDot page 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that you are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > currently logged into, all the login information is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > stored inside ASP
> > > > > > > > > > > > > session variables. So, you can basically just read 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those session
> > > > > > > > > > > > > variables to get the current login information. For 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > example:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dim sLogin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dim sSession
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sLogin = Session("LoginGuid")
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sSession = Session("SessionKey")
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That works well for me and I don't have to deal with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > figuring out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > whether or not a user is already logged in when 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > running the RQL.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For the scripts that I did need the login for, I just 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ignored the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > error I received that said the user was logged in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > already. I could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > then retrieve the session key and continue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 5:29 am, Kareem <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using the RQL webservice to login and query 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > RedDot. The problem I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have is when a user attempts to login but already 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a session in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I get an RDError101. I would like to present the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > user with an option
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to logout the other session and login anyways.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its mentioned here that the existing login guid is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > retrievable, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't figure out 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how.http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users/msg/4fb33dca64453ad1
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The RDError101 is thrown in a SoapException. I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't actually get an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > xml response from the webserver.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to retrieve the existing login 
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