A really rough comparison based on my personal project experience: License: Depends on where you are buying (US/Europe) and the size (users/ servers) of your project. In the past, we saw vignette-licence-budgets were 2-3 times higher. This might have changed over the last months!
Setup: RedDot: Fairly automated setup with ready-to-use installers. Moderate time for performance tweaking needed. Vignette: Significant more time needed for install and performance tuning due to framework-understanding of product and a lot of manual steps by administrators. Dev Functional: RedDot: CMS interface extensible by plugins. Main user dialogues not fully customizable. CMS .net-oriented, Delivery Server J2EE/XML-based and can be extended with java-classes and API. Vignette: Again, framework-approach: Everything can be altered (even original code base) and be connected with your own java (or other) components. Extensive Object/DB-Modelling needed! Dev Display Layer: RedDot: Core strenght of the CMS: Build in WYSIWYG-editing interface. Integrated template-engine for fast display-layer development. XSL development optional if you want to render XML contents on Delivery site (CMS can push pre-rendered HTML-pages to Web Solutions Delivery Server as well as J2EE, static file system, ...) Vignette: No integrated templating (about to change with V8). Display layer is coded with JSP (java-function calls to Vignette-API) or rendered with XSL. Any AppServer like Websphere can be used for delivery. Alternative: Vignette-Portal - does not deliver much help on display layer development though. Ongoing Maintenance: RedDot: Quite little for the software itself except the regular windows server maintenance and updates. We see installations out in the field with only 1-2 days of maintenance effort per month. If Verity search engine is used, this can be a weak point. Vignette: Depends on your project/setup. We see customers with full- time maintenance needed as well as installations running with small maintenance efforts. Like with RedDot, the built-in search engine (here Autonomy, needed for CMS) can cause quite some ongoing issues. Usability for Admins: RedDot: Easy-to-use due to full web interface to nearly all aspects of the system on 1 console. Database administration needed in special cases only. Vignette: Significant broader skill-set needed compared to RedDot. A lot of management consoles, configs in filesystem and direct database administration (Oracle) required. Publishers: RedDot: No special skills required due to WYSIWYG interface and manual or worklow-based publishing. Before/after preview of changes when reviewing/approving items comes out of the box. Comes with built-in translation support, flexible multi-site publishing needs service- effort though. Vignette: Can be as easy as RedDot but needs service involved to add features to the core product. Workflow building very flexible but only programmers needed (again, watch out for V8). Multi-Site publishing/ translation needs to be build from scratch (or re-use components built by professional service) Vignette is great for creating high-performance websites with lots of content sources and no or little manual editing and a significant service-budget backing up your project and the maintenance. RedDot delivers a lot of features faster and out of the box but seperates standard-features from extensions more rigid (if this is a good or bad thing depends or your project/policy ;-) ). RedDot (now: Web Solutions) has adressed it's publishing issues from earlier version successfully with the current release 10. Vignette (new name to come) will adress some of it's pain points with V8 scheduled for this year. The main differences "out-of-the-box" vs. "framework" will remain - at least for some time - though. Hope this helps. On 14 Sep., 05:21, Matt K <[email protected]> wrote: > Could anyone point me in the direction of any cost comparisions > between RedDot and Vignette. Licence | Setup | Dev Functional | Dev > Display Layer | Ongoing Maintenence | Usability for Admins > Publishers. > > Is there likely to be crossover in the future particularly with the > Vignett community suite? > > Any thoughts or general views would be appreciated. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/reddot-cms-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
