Thanks Markus, we don't sell it as a wiki, far from it, but our people
love to collaborate so I am trying to keep from telling them the
system won't do it. I think RedDot is frustrating enough for the end
user.

Wayne - I actually never used the Display setting before! So this is
very helpful. And I also copied your 3rd paragraph idea and I think
that is just what I needed but couldn't conceptualize before. Thanks!


On Dec 3, 1:08 am, Wayne Bouwmeester <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Not in the Main Menu -> Display settings.
> Those dictate how you view the site, as a CMS user.
>
> Checking the "Publish unreleased pages" for a project variant is a
> different story.
> That's where you allow the to be published out.
>
> If it's just one text field you are collaborating on, you might
> consider creating two text fields.
> Wrap the second (txt_BodyContentCollaboration) which could appear
> below the first, in Smart Edit Only tags, so that you only see the
> content in Smart Edit.
> Make that particular element "Not relevant for workflow" so that you
> don't need to release it.
> Wrap it with a marching ants border, whatever you need to do to
> identify it as the collaboration content.
>
> Then collaborate 'til your hearts are content. It won't hit workflow
> and won't go into draft mode because the field is workflow exempt.
> When all users are happy with the content, copy and paste to the field
> not wrapped in smart edit only block markers, submit to workflow,
> release, publish.
>
> If you want to actually see the content outside of RedDot, make a
> template variant that publishes to a staging site.
> Include both the regular content and the collaborated content below
> the original content so that executives or marketing folks can see
> both versions.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Wayne.
>
> On Dec 2, 10:40 am, Tiffany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Wayne - won't that publish my unreleased pages? I don't want the pages
> > to be published until they are released.
>
> > On Dec 1, 1:17 pm, Wayne Bouwmeester <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Have you tried checking the "Unreleased Pages" box in the main menu ->
> > > Use settings window?
> > > You might check "Ignore appearance schedule" as well.
> > > Wayne.
>
> > > On Dec 1, 6:55 am, Tiffany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Markus - We are using that bit, but there is a problem if the page
> > > > hasn't been released, it doesn't appear on the list and the new user
> > > > can't pick it up. But for pages already established this is a great
> > > > solution.
>
> > > > On Nov 30, 10:51 pm, Wayne Bouwmeester <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Yes, I guess clicking on the "assign user" link, then the ... button,
> > > > > then clicking search (maybe having typed in some search criteria),
> > > > > then clicking the radio button for the specific user, then clicking
> > > > > OK, then clicking OK to the message telling you that clicking the next
> > > > > OK will change the last editor of the page, then actually clicking the
> > > > > OK to apply the change, then clicking OK because windows wants to
> > > > > close the popup, and then refreshing the page might work.
> > > > > Not sure how much of a shortcut that is to clicking a "take draft
> > > > > ownership" button.
> > > > > I guess it depends on how much your users are willing to put up with.
>
> > > > > If you are trying, as an admin, to change ownership to someone else,
> > > > > then yes, you are at the mercy of said interface.
> > > > > If you are trying to take ownership quickly as part of a repetitive
> > > > > business process, I think some investment in click reduction might be
> > > > > in order.
>
> > > > > Wayne.
>
> > > > > On Nov 30, 6:38 pm, markus giesen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Uhm, you don't necessarily need a plugin to change the user of a 
> > > > > > page.
> > > > > > Just use this shortcut:http://bit.ly/75HLuH
>
> > > > > > Cheers :)
> > > > > > Markuswww.reddotcmsblog.com
>
> > > > > > On 1 Dez., 08:17, Wayne Bouwmeester <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I wrote a plugin years ago that allowed users to "steal" a page in
> > > > > > > draft.
> > > > > > > Basically, I found that if you changed the page via an RQL 
> > > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > it became yours, ignoring the current draft user.
> > > > > > > I just wrote some RQL that filled in the current user's name in a
> > > > > > > field named stf_CurrentOwner.
> > > > > > > So to steal the page for editing, you just clicked the button, it 
> > > > > > > ran
> > > > > > > the plugin, put your name in the field, and now it's in your 
> > > > > > > drafts
> > > > > > > instead of your friend's.
> > > > > > > It's kinda making use of RedDot's security by obscurity, but it 
> > > > > > > worked
> > > > > > > then. Not sure if it will work in more recent versions, but you 
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > want to try it. Not much invested if it doesn't work.
> > > > > > > Wayne.
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 25, 9:02 am, Tiffany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > My users would like the CMS to act more like a wiki...basically 
> > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > want to collaborate on a page, share it between editors, but 
> > > > > > > > WITHOUT
> > > > > > > > releasing the page for publication. We have tried a few creative
> > > > > > > > measures to make this happen: (1) allowing them to Assign Last 
> > > > > > > > Editor
> > > > > > > > (2) Releasing the page but publishing to a staging area (3) 
> > > > > > > > putting
> > > > > > > > fake text in the released version that says "coming soon" until 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > real text is agreed upon (4) multi leveled workflow that 
> > > > > > > > shuffles the
> > > > > > > > page around a max of 3 times before releasing
>
> > > > > > > > None of these options are working very well. Does anyone have a 
> > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > in place where multiple editors can review a *new* page before 
> > > > > > > > it gets
> > > > > > > > released for publication? Any ideas are appreciated!

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