Markus,

The site is being published to IIS server as .aspx (There will be a
few user controls built into some templates)  and SEO is important.

The structure for each subfolder is going to be almost identical so
that they want to have the published structure look like :

www.url.com/index.aspx

www.url.com/subfoldera/index.aspx
www.url.com/subfoldera/otherpage.aspx
www.url.com/subfoldera/differentpage.aspx

www.url.com/subfolderb/index.aspx
www.url.com/subfolderb/otherpage.aspx
www.url.com/subfolderb/differentpage.aspx

There will be user(s) who will manage the main top level page(s) and
then one or more users per subfolder to edit that content. They
haven't finalised workflow yet but it's likely that they each
subfolder will have a basic 2 step workflow - i.e. edit --> submit -->
approve --> publish. They're really quite insistent on one subfolder
user group not being able to edit other subfolders pages so I'm gonna
have to stick with authorization packages too.

I still think that I'll be able to do this in RQL as it will allow me
to get a new subfolder set up quickly but not by doing anything that
couldn't be done really easily by a RedDot administrator (The aim is
to make a non RedDot admin be able to get one of the subfolders set up
really quickly. But I like the idea of setting the start page for the
user too once I've created the subfolder home page so thanks for
nudging me about that one!


On Jul 29, 1:07 am, markus giesen <[email protected]> wrote:
> What exactly is your client trying to do? I mean, what is the purpose
> for this project?
> I am also not sure if subfolders would be necessary...
> Where do you publish to?
> Maybe there is no need for a static folder and this could be managed
> via URL rewriter?
>
> 700 Users are easy for RedDot CMS
> Do you have different languages?
> Do you have different project variants?
>
> Instead of restricting access to each single page per user it might be
> worthwhile setting up a workflow where every change needs approval.
> Users rarely will mess around in other pages but if they do the
> workflow can take care of it.
> The time to manage this is likely to be less than the time to manage
> groups/users/authentifications.
>
> Users can get a startpage for the CMS, so the first page they would
> see when they log in, that might be worthwhile looking into if each
> user has only assigned one page.
>
> On 29 Jul., 07:12, Hels Bells <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys for all the helpful information.
>
> > I think that's given me the confidence to recommend building a
> > solution with one project for the 700 editors.
>
> > Each of the "subfolders" that need to be published will have between
> > 10 and 30 pages and there is only one level of navigation
> > (hallelujah!) so I wasn't intending on using nav man anyway. The small
> > size of each "subfolder" is als why I'm also a bit hesitant to do it
> > as separate projects as this does seem a bit overkill. Plus I thought
> > there was a restriction of 99 projects per server anyway ??
>
> > So my idea will to be to have a Plug-in that an authorised user will
> > run from a start page to create a publication target/package/workflow
> > and authorization package specific for that "subfolder". Then it will
> > create the "home" page for that subfolder (and assign the default
> > document name) and assign the relevant workflow and authorization. All
> > other pages created from these "home" pages will inherit the auth and
> > publication and workflow so I think this should work nicely now. I can
> > also create all of the other pages using the same plug-in and as crazy
> > as it sounds there won't be any internal links required. If they were
> > I could always bespoke the FCKEditor that I intend to use to modify
> > the connect to existing page option to provide only those pages
> > created in the current "subfolder"... It does seem quite a bit of
> > bespoking but certainly not undoable as the template setup is so
> > simple on this!
>
> > Obviously the fact that the packages/targets etc taking a long time to
> > open will have to be taken into consideration but I don't see this as
> > a huge problem as there will only likely be one CMS administrator (ie
> > me !!) and I've had worse frustrations within RedDot :-)
>
> > And again the licensing issue is something they'll have to deal with
> > depending on how much they want to pay to RedDot !!!
>
> > Again, if this does seem bonkers please feel free to set me straight!
>
> > Thanks again
> > Helen
>
> > On Jul 28, 4:31 pm, RedDot in Toronto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I've done both but not together... I worked on a project that had 700+
> > > publication packages and roughly the same amount of folders/sub
> > > folders in one project it'll work but opening the publication package
> > > tab is extremely slow. If you're going to go down that route, I'd
> > > suggest that you start a naming convention for your publication
> > > packages. Is there any reason why you need a separate package for each
> > > user? Also make sure you have all your variants planned out in advance
> > > you don't want to be adding variants 700 times to each publication
> > > package and assigning publishing folder.
>
> > > 700 users isn't a problem for one project it'll work, from a licensing
> > > point of view it all depends on how many users are going to be logged
> > > in at any given time concurrent licenses. We had a project where each
> > > sales rep had a custom home page 700ish sales reps.
>
> > > We were on version 7.5x I believe.
>
> > > On Jul 28, 5:42 am, Hels Bells <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > Can anyone tell me if there's a maximum number of users that can be
> > > > created within OpenText Mgmt Server 10. I have a client who thinks
> > > > they'd like up to about 700 editors and I think that would be a BAD
> > > > idea.
>
> > > > And also that each editor would be responsible for a few pages (and
> > > > restricted access to all other) that need to be published out to
> > > > different directories so ....up to 700 publication targets, packages
> > > > and authorisation packages.
>
> > > > Can anyone give me any technical backup as to why this would be (and I
> > > > repeat here) a BAD idea aside from the cost of the licenses ....
>
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Helen

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