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redhat-digest Digest                            Volume 98 : Issue 226

Today's Topics:
         RE: PPP Session Drop outs
         Re: kernel compiling errors
         laptop installation locks up 
         Re: SANE-0.72 & xcam w/ RedHat Linux 5.0
  
         RE: lilo & additional memory
         RE: lilo & additional memory
         RE: lilo & additional memory
         Re: lilo & additional memory
         even more Network almost (we are really close)
         Image file reference withing CGI directory?
         Maximal mount count reached
         GNOME, RedHat Labs, and daily updates
         Strange SCSI problem
         Re: Strange SCSI problem
         RE: Strange SCSI problem
         RE: Looking for programs...
         X windwos
         Re: X windwos
         Re: X windwos

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Subject: RE: PPP Session Drop outs
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 11:36:09 +1000
From: Adam Neat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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On Sunday, May 03, 1998 11:20 AM, William T Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
wrote:
> On Sun, 3 May 1998, Adam Neat wrote:
>
> > If I didnt know better, Id say faulty phone lines where the line noise
> > makes it too hard for the modems to re-sync.
>
> Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me.  How do you know better? :)
>
> Turn off error correction (and/or MNP) on the modems.  Then establish a
> normal non-ppp connection with Minicom or something and just log in.  Chat
> over ytalk or something.  See if you get line noise.  :)
>
>


:-)   Fairly non-technical but I think its a good idea
Thanks

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Subject: Re: kernel compiling errors
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 18:45:30 -0700
From: "David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Sat, 02 May 1998, Cam Vetter wrote:

>vfatfs_syms.c:69: redefinition of `vfat_fs_type'
>vfatfs_syms.c:15: `vfat_fs_type' previously defined here
>vfatfs_syms.c:78: redefinition of `vfat_syms'
>vfatfs_syms.c:24: `vfat_syms' previously defined here

This looks suspiciously like if a stray #include might have been 
added somewhere where it shouldn't have been. Check the vfatfs_syms.c
file for this possibility.

>Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I need to do to fix it.  I
>know the fat32 patch works ok, since I used it when I compiled using Debian

The Redhat kernel sources aren't always going to be the same as the
kernel sources you find at places like ftp.kernel.org -- they will have
had patches applied. Tnis may affect what you are attempting to do.

One thing to try is to check to make sure you don't have any reject
files (files ending in .rej). If you do, those would be files that patch
couldn't patch because enough text was different.

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Subject: laptop installation locks up
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:15:10 -0400
From: Andrej Todosic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi everyone ,
i need a bit of help getting started , 
I am running redhat on 2 macines at home ( 5.0) 
and i got a laptop and am trying to install it on there as well . 

Hmmmm... Problem starts at the very beginning the boot disk is locking up
after loading the kernel on detecting pci devices ...

i disabled the wavetable in the bios , tried both reg and expert mode also
tried disabling lba mode in bios 
it keeps locking up at the same place ...
i also tried freebsd for a change it locks up also probable at the same
place cause its right after loading the kernel ( just so to tell you that i
dont think its a redhat prob but my laptops ( or parameteres i am missing) 

here is what i see on the screen before it locks up : 

loading initrd.img 
loading vmlinuz 
uncompressing linux done 
now booting kernel 
console : 16 point 400scans 
colour : vga 80x25 1 virtual console 
pcibios_init: bios32 service directory structure at 0x000ec050
pcibios_init: bios32 service directory entry at 0xee610
pcibios_init: pci bios revision 2.10 entry at 0xee64e 
Probing PCI hardware 

and it stops right there ... wont fart any further no matter what 

Now anyone any idea what to do ..any parameter ? 
anything ? piece of hardware that may be the problem ? 

here is my config : 


sis510x bios
teac cd38e ( 8x ) 
trident cyber 9385 
32 mb edo 
pnp bios 1.0a 
sis chipset and bios 
p150 
1.44 toshiba HD 
256k cache 
acerlabs mpeg decoder 
ess sound 
touchpad 


PS i thought the expert mode disables probing ?!? 



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Subject: Re: SANE-0.72 & xcam w/ RedHat Linux 5.0
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:04:37 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 4/29/98 David Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   >> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/sane-0.72/backend'
   >> gcc -c -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -g -O2 -Wall
   >> -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../include
   >> -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -D_GNU_SOURCE
   >> -DPATH_SANE_CONFIG_DIR=/usr/local/etc/sane.d
   >> -DPATH_SANE_DATA_DIR=/usr/local/share!
   >> -DV_MAJOR=0 -DV_MINOR=72 -DBACKEND_NAME=umax -DLIBDIR=/usr/local/lib
   >> -fPIC -DPIC umax.c
   >> umax.c: In function `sane_umax_set_io_mode':
   >> umax.c:5083: parse error at null character
   >> umax.c:5084: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
   >> make[1]: *** [umax.lo] Error 1
   >> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/sane-0.72/backend'
   >> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

   > Hmmm, I'm not sure.  Sounds like the file is corrupted (if I had
   > to guess).  If it were me, I would delete the source tree and try
   > re-extracting the tar file.  Your configure output matched mine
   > FWIW.

I done that twice already but it did not solve the problem. The error
happen in the same place both times after re-extracting the tar file.
 
   >>Anyway, I don't understand what is causing the compile error with the
   >>umax.c part of SANE. The only scanners that I have, is a Hewlett Packard
   >>4c flatbed and a Connectix QuickCAM.

   > Sane compiles all the backends even for hardware you may not have
   > since it doesn't make any attempt at compile time to detect hardware.

OK.

   >On Fri, 1 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   >>OK, I have installed gtk+-0.99.10, which I downloaded from the
   >>RedHat ftp  site a few days ago. I removed the old gtk-0.99.xxxx
   >>that came with RedHat  Linux 5.0 so the control-panel is disabled
   >>now.

   >You should get gtk+ 1.0 rpms from ftp.gimp.org since that is the
   >official stable release.
   >jason

I just download the new gtk+-1.0.0-1.rpm and installed it and I was able to
finally compile SANE-0.72-1 completely. It works great with my Hewlett
Packard ScanJet 4c flatbed scanner. However, with the Connectix Color
QuickCAM, it takes one frame and freezes for some reason. I have to kill the
xcam process to get out of it. The QuickCAM is connected to the lp1 (0x378
IRQ 12) parallel port. I have tried changing the config.qcam file from 0x378
to u0x378 but that did not solve the problem. Then I tried connecting the
QuickCAM to the lp0 (0x3BC IRQ 7) parallel port where I had my LaserJet II
printer connected and changed the config.qcam file from 0x3BC to u0x3BC
but xcam still froze. I would like to use the QuickCAM on the lp1 (0x378
IRQ 12) parallel port so I can have the LaserJet II printer connected to
lp0.

Do I have to modify the kernel and/or lp driver module to use IRQ 12 for
lp1?

Thank you again for helping me.

David Smith

Net-Tamer V 1.09.2  - Registered

Subject: RE: lilo & additional memory
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:29:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Maxwell Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 02-May-98 Dave Watts wrote:
> I have 80M of RAM and would like Linux to see and use it. I have been
> following the mails regarding adding a line to the lilo.conf file, but I
> would like to know exactly where to put it in the file. The following is
> my lilo.conf file. If it makes a difference, could someone tell me
> exactly where the line should go that identifies the additional RAM?
> 
> boot=/dev/hdb5
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.31
>         label=linux
-->    append="mem=80M"           <------works fine right here for me
>         root=/dev/hdb5
>         read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
>         label=dos
>         table=/dev/hda

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Subject: RE: lilo & additional memory
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 02:01:23 -0300
From: "Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is the maximum Linux will use without making the changes discussed here? Just for curiosity, because I have 64M and want to be sure that I am using it all.

thanks

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On 5/2/98, at 11:29 PM, Maxwell Smart  wrote: 

>On 02-May-98 Dave Watts wrote:
>> I have 80M of RAM and would like Linux to see and use it. I have been
>> following the mails regarding adding a line to the lilo.conf file, but I
>> would like to know exactly where to put it in the file. The following is
>> my lilo.conf file. If it makes a difference, could someone tell me
>> exactly where the line should go that identifies the additional RAM?
>> 
>> boot=/dev/hdb5
>> map=/boot/map
>> install=/boot/boot.b
>> prompt
>> timeout=50
>> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.31
>>         label=linux
>-->    append="mem=80M"           <------works fine right here for me
>>         root=/dev/hdb5
>>         read-only
>> other=/dev/hda1
>>         label=dos
>>         table=/dev/hda
>
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Subject: RE: lilo & additional memory
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:14:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cristian Tibirna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 3 May 1998, Webmaster wrote:

> What is the maximum Linux will use without making the changes discussed here? Just for curiosity, because I have 64M and want to be sure that I am using it all.
> 
:-)))

1) at prompt type  `free` and read the output :-)

2) the maximum got by kernel without lilo hand wrestling is 64 Mb.
Hopefully this is gone in lastest beta kernel (don't shoot, I'm not sure,
not tested them, just heard about :-)

> thanks
> 
You're welcome

                                Cristian

Subject: Re: lilo & additional memory
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 00:12:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Vidiot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>What is the maximum Linux will use without making the changes discussed here? Just for curiosity, because I have 64M and want to be sure that I am using it all.

Anything higher than 64MB requires the entry.

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Subject: even more Network almost (we are really close)
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:23:25 -0700
From: James Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well I almost have it :-)    I changed the IRQ on one of the hosts machines
and lo and behold  I can ping in both directions with no dropped packets.

However: I can only telnet or rlogin in one dirrection.  when I telnet or
rlogin from abraham.localdomain.nevada I can log on to
joseph.localdomain.nevada with the usual prompts.

But when I go the other direction I get

Trying 192.168.16.1....
Connected to 192.168.16.1.
Escape character is '^]'.

Red Hat Linux release 4.1 (Vanderbilt)
Kernel 2.0.27 on an i586


I get no login prompt and eventually the connection times out.
why am I getting no login prompt????

the same thing happens with rlogin.

This is the last thing I need to get this bear working. I hope someone can
help.

Everything on the other machine going to joseph works fine.

So far I have had to change IRQ's twice and pull the machines apart to disable
pnp.
the first IRQ change from 10 to 11 on joseph should have corrected the irq
problem, because as far as I know there were no other devices using it.
Changing it to 12 seems to have it partially working . This is getting to be a
real fight to do something trival.

Thank you all for your patience..... :-)

Jimbo.

Subject: Image file reference withing CGI directory?
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 22:46:42 -0700
From: "Timothy Ayodele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RedHat List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Hello, Can anyone tell me what directive I need (and where it goes) to get Apache 1.2.5-1 (on RH5.0 with Kernel 2.0.32) be able to reference images within CGI directory... Thanks in advance


Subject: Maximal mount count reached
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:56:47 -0700
From: James Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,  I get the following  message at boot

Partition check:
    hda: hda1
    hdb: hdb1    hdb2    hdb3
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly
Adding Swap: 52412k swap-space
EXT2-fs warning: maximal mount count reached. running e2fsck is
recommended.


What does this mean?    And which options are recommended for the e2fsck
command.  I don't want to hose my filesystems with the wrong options.

thanks.

Subject: GNOME, RedHat Labs, and daily updates
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:17:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chris Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know that the people at rhl have some script that gets the latest rpms
and installs them every morning...could I see this script? I'd like to do
the same myself but am not sure how to do the ftp part.

Thanks!
Chris
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Subject: Strange SCSI problem
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 23:31:36 -0700
From: "Mike A. Lewis, CNE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

New RH5.0 install.  AST Manhattan with Adaptec 2940UW controller (same
controller working with RH5.0 in another machine).

Earlier today, installed RH5.0 via FTP.  Absolutely no problems during
install.  After finishing installation, when rebooting, I get the
following:

Scsi: 0 hosts
Scsi: detected total
Partition check
Ramdisk: Compressed image found at block 0
Crc errorVFS: Cannot open root device 08:01
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01


Any ideas ?

Thanks,
Mike

Subject: Re: Strange SCSI problem
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 23:44:09 -0700
From: Dan Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No idea what would cause this but here's a way to get in and compile a new
kernel and see if it works after that.

Put loadlin on a floppy disk, along with a kernel image file from the other
system and run it like this;

loadlin vmlinuz root/dev/sda? ro

Of course it would help to have the same nic in both systems (or recompile
on the working system a new kernel with support the the other's nic), to
get the new kernel in it. Of course you could always rar up a kernel
tree(file) and use floppies. =)

Good luck.


Dan

At 11:31 PM 5/2/98 -0700, Mike A. Lewis, CNE wrote:
>
>New RH5.0 install.  AST Manhattan with Adaptec 2940UW controller (same
>controller working with RH5.0 in another machine).
>
>Earlier today, installed RH5.0 via FTP.  Absolutely no problems during
>install.  After finishing installation, when rebooting, I get the
>following:
>
>Scsi: 0 hosts
>Scsi: detected total
>Partition check
>Ramdisk: Compressed image found at block 0
>Crc errorVFS: Cannot open root device 08:01
>Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
>
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike

Subject: RE: Strange SCSI problem
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 23:57:21 -0700
From: "Mike A. Lewis, CNE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Actually, I believe it is the same NIC.  And again, there were
absolutely no problems during the install.

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From:   Dan Cyr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Sunday, May 03, 1998 1:44 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:        Re: Strange SCSI problem


No idea what would cause this but here's a way to get in and compile a
new
kernel and see if it works after that.

Put loadlin on a floppy disk, along with a kernel image file from the
other
system and run it like this;

loadlin vmlinuz root/dev/sda? ro

Of course it would help to have the same nic in both systems (or
recompile
on the working system a new kernel with support the the other's nic), to
get the new kernel in it. Of course you could always rar up a kernel
tree(file) and use floppies. =)

Good luck.


Dan

At 11:31 PM 5/2/98 -0700, Mike A. Lewis, CNE wrote:
>
>New RH5.0 install.  AST Manhattan with Adaptec 2940UW controller (same
>controller working with RH5.0 in another machine).
>
>Earlier today, installed RH5.0 via FTP.  Absolutely no problems during
>install.  After finishing installation, when rebooting, I get the
>following:
>
>Scsi: 0 hosts
>Scsi: detected total
>Partition check
>Ramdisk: Compressed image found at block 0
>Crc errorVFS: Cannot open root device 08:01
>Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01
>
>
>Any ideas ?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike


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Subject: RE: Looking for programs...
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 08:04:38 +1000
From: Tim Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I'm looking for a cupple of programs for redhat linux5.0 and i was hoping you
> could help me. The programs I'm looking for is:
> 
> 1) a ftp program for down & uploading. Something like cuteftp

Filerunner works quite well. I use it to work on my web page. Available
from sunsite I think. I use it mostly for uploading. Netscape does most
of my downloads.
 
> 2) a music program. I have a small keyboard connected to my comp, but sice
>     I dropped M$-Windoze I have not been able to use it

I use Jazz to edit midi files, but it won't play them. I use the kde
midi player to play the files after I edit them with jazz. Some of those
keyboards are WS-WIN only unless it's a midi keyboard maybe... Not my
area.
 
> 3) A program for making a homepage. I want to make a homepage and I would 
>     like a program which allows me to make one more or less visually.

Depends on what you want to do. For basic WYSIWYG HTML editting,
netscape communicator is quite adequate. 
 
> 4) I'm starting school soon, so I have to get a good wordprocessor. can anyone
>     tell me what the major differences is between: StarOffice, ApplixWare and WP
>     Which one could you reccoment and why 

Staroffice is quite nice but it's a big download and takes a lot of
resources and it's fairly slow. Still worth having, tho. For most of my
work I use Lyx (or the qt version Klyx) for the bulk of my wordpro work
as it has a lot of features and it's much much quicker. Then for
spreadsheet work I use Xesslite. 
 
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Subject: X windwos
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 12:32:08 +0200
From: Sahar Nitzan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello everybody,
I am new to this mail list .
I have a problem with my new installed linux 4.
When I am trining to start the x windwos ( startx,or xinit ....) I get the resault like :
Error 111 can't connect to server . - can any body help me with this ?

Subject: Re: X windwos
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 03:47:34 -0700 (MST)
From: ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hello everybody,
> I am new to this mail list .
> I have a problem with my new installed linux 4.
> When I am trining to start the x windwos ( startx,or xinit ....) I get the resault like :
> Error 111 can't connect to server . - can any body help me with this ?

You have to give a little more description than this.

Subject: Re: X windwos
Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 03:25:10 -0700
From: Dan Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Run /usr/X11R6/bin/Xconfigurator until you get it right.


Dan

At 12:32 PM 5/3/98 +0200, Sahar Nitzan wrote:
>Hello everybody,
>I am new to this mail list .
>I have a problem with my new installed linux 4.
>When I am trining to start the x windwos ( startx,or xinit ....) I get the
resault like :
>Error 111 can't connect to server . - can any body help me with this ?
 

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