This does indeed happen on IBM ThinkPad's (at least on the 770 series with the Trident 
Cyber chipsets). The problem is the 
VGA server that is used and its settings clash with the LCD screens capabilities 
resulting in a black screen or just a total mess.

Using a kernel with SVGA framebuffer support and a framebuffer X server would actually 
be a solution for these machines, as the 
SVGA framebuffer works perfectly on the IBM ThinkPad's (well at least it does on the 
600 and 770 series, as those are the 
models I have tried it with), including high colour depth and high resolutions.

My vote would be for using a kernel with SVGA framebuffer support and the framebuffer 
X server, but then I don't have any 
machine to worry about with an ATI videocard (as from what I understand the ATI cards 
have problems with the SVGA 
framebuffer).

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:56:59 -0800, Rick Forrester wrote:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> I'm pretty sure this is not my problem, but would just like to
>> confirm..
>
>> I have a laptop with a Trident Cyber 9397 DVD video card (4 MB).
>
>> Neither 6.1 or 6.2beta graphical install works. 
>
>> I *can* get X to work later with a few XF86Config tweaks, (the details
>> escape me right now), and my 6.2 text upgrade hasn't finished yet.
>
>> I get a blank screen when X tries to start, and the last line on
>> virtual console 1 says it's using a Linear Frame Buffer on
>> 0x0fe400000, size 4mb 
>
>If you can get it to run afterwards by tweaking your config file, it's
>probably not the frame buffer problem.  Probably wouldn't hurt to try,
>it might contribute to the disorder in any case.  The kernel rebuild
>instructions as I gave them work cleanly and give a kernel identical to
>the install version _except_ for frame buffering.  The problem with
>laptops, as you know, charles, is that the manufacturers tweak the
>chipset support to meet their needs & they're not quite the same as
>their regular chipsets - so the frame buffering is one more complication
>that I can live without.
>
>It didn't break X support on my home system with an Millenium G200 AGP
>card, but things were a wee bit flakey.  So last night, when I compiled
>a custom kernel, I left the frame buffering out & it seems a bit more
>stabile.
>
>best
>   rickf
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> three people, two of whom are absent."  Robert Copeland
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