I just noticed that in my /etc passwd pop and gdm have /bin/bash set as their shells rather than /bin/false is there any reason why they get to have (why they need) real shells - should I change them to /bin/false or will that cause then to wig out? what are these users there for anyway? I also noticed that some have no shell setting at all - is this the same as setting /bin/false or /dev/null? TIA - dan. ----- Nitro - 3D Visualisation, Graphics & Animation Ph (+61 2) 9810 5177 - Fx (+61 2) 9810 0199 http://www.nitro.com.au/ -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.