What is it about Commercial backup software that
you like? The proprietary tape formats, the unencrypted
client/server communications, or the crappy tech support?

Just not kidding, hee hee.

We've got the nightmare of all backup situations here,
with multiple platforms (Netware 3.12, Netware 5.0, NT,
MacOS, HPUX, and lots of linux).  Arcserve was what
we used for Netware3.12/4.0 and it sucked. We tried
ArcserveOPEN for HPUX and it kind of worked, but wanted
to create a file database in excess of 100 MB's in the
root filesystem!!(On a system with 18GB of disk space!).
Arcserve is theoretically client/server, but the clients
are server-specific, so if you ever change server platform
you have to re-buy all your clients. We went to Netware 5.0
with Seagate BackupExec because the Arcserve server kept
crashing the NW3.12 server. 

The shift to Seagate would probably be inevitable for us,
but now we've found that the extensions to NDS that it does
cause NDS partition operations to go wonky.

I've pretty much gone back to using native applications those
places where I care about metadata, (like acl's) and tar/rmt
via ssh elsewhere.

But hey, we're poor.  It's all I can do to get enough dough
to buy tape drives occasionally, Much less try out fancy
expensive commercial backup software.

Anyway, specifically to your questions:
RE: autoloaders - an autoloader DAT might be cheaper than a
        DLT70, but I don't know of any DLT30 loader/libraries
        that are cheaper.

One Note: You DID know that tar can backup to remote drives, didn't you?
It does it via rsh, and you can drop in ssh, which gives you encryption
and compression-over-the-wire. I didn't know this at myself, and it
was a great coolness when I found out. 


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