Yes. Windoze, gets what we need done until Unix is more widely used as a desktop...
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On 6/14/2000 at 2:25 PM Tanner, Robby wrote:
>All good points. Just trying to lend some objectivity. I'm all for a nice
>desktop interface with Unix underpinnings. Until then, Windows is OK.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 1:35 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: MS Breakup
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>>
>> Robby,
>>
>> Point taken. We all get a long with Windoze. That is
>> because we need to. If I could get most
>> of the software I need for Linux,Unix. I would only run
>> Windoze for my wife's machine or when
>> I was on the road. Windows does not give us anything that special.
>>
>> Again Gates has nothing more to do with windows then he had
>> some great marketing. He did not
>> even write it. At least Mac was done by them..
>>
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>> On 6/14/2000 at 1:07 PM Tanner, Robby wrote:
>>
>> >...and one could hypothesize that, given a different
>> outcome, we would be
>> >complianing about Apple today. The possibilities and liklihoods
>> >notwithstanding, Microsoft undertakes shady and illegal activities to
>> >compensate for a so-so operating system. Truth be known, I
>> get along with
>> >NT. I prefer UNIX for back end stuff. Nothing new there.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: John Baird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:33 PM
>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Subject: RE: MS Breakup
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yeah but what really bugs me about threads like these
>> >> denigrating MS is that
>> >> apple stole the original gui idea from Xerox. Somehow the
>> MS haters
>> >> conveniently forget this.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Steven Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:59 PM
>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> > Subject: RE: MS Breakup
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Bill,
>> >> >
>> >> > VERY well said. I could not have said it better myself. One
>> >> > note: is that if Apple
>> >> > would not have been so closed they might have had a much larger
>> >> > market share.
>> >> >
>> >> > S
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>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jon, I'm sorry to say, but we do owe Microsoft a few
>> >> (positive) things:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >The machine on your desk wouldn't exist if not for the
>> >> foundations built
>> >> > >on MS-DOS. Sure, I know, you run Linux now... but the
>> >> machine is based
>> >> > >on commodity parts that were produced to run an OS
>> >> championed by IBM for
>> >> > >he business world. Intel designed those parts, but if Microsoft
>> >> > hadn't had
>> >> > >an OS to run the system on, in all likelihood, the use
>> >> "critical mass"
>> >> > >required
>> >> > >to lower the prices down to the current levels, and raise
>> >> the performance
>> >> > >to these current levels, would not have existed. I'm not
>> >> saying Gates
>> >> > >invented DOS (he didn't); I'm not saying that he invented
>> >> the killer
>> >> > >app(again,
>> >> > >he didn't. Visicalc did); I'm not saying he invented the
>> >> PC(IBM, Intel,
>> >> > >etc.).
>> >> > >But his company was critical in those early stages. Without
>> >> > him, we might
>> >> > >be
>> >> > >using TR-DOS, CP/M, or some other legacy OS as the
>> >> "mainstream" OS, and
>> >> > >saturation
>> >> > >would be a lot less.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Just to let you know, though, Microsoft wasn't always the world
>> >> > conquering,
>> >> > >arrogant company they became. I once bought a copy of Microsoft
>> >> > Multiplan
>> >> > >for the TI 99/4A back in 1983, worked great, was widely
>> >> supported on many
>> >> > >non MS platforms, etc. I was still using it regularly
>> >> until 1990, when I
>> >> > >got
>> >> > >a copy of Lotus 1-2-3 to replace it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >They once cared about other OSes. They simply got too big.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Bill Ward
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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