On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:15:27PM +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
: On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote:
:
: > Base Stuff:
: > - Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area)
: > - Glibc 2.2
: > - Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3)
: > - XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is)
:
: This will probably happen at some time, though by the time gcc 3.0 is
: released, we're probably at glibc 2.2.something and XFree86 4.0.2 or 4.1.
The gcc guys are still targetting the end of the year for a 3.0 release..
At least that's what it says on http://egcs.cygnus.com/
: > - 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc.
:
: We already have symlinks so /etc/init.d and all work.
: /etc/rc.d will stay for compatibility reasons.
Yes, but to be FHS compliant, wouldn't things have to be the other way
around? That is, the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/rcN.d directories should be
the ones that are the symlinks, correct?
: > - Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to
: > be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS & ext3 if available.
:
: ReiserFS isn't ready for prime time yet.
: Generally, while it runs, it's ok, but if something messes up beyond what
: can be fixed by a simple journal replay, you're probably in trouble.
I've had good luck with it, and apparently so has sourceforge - half of their
850G on ftp.sourceforge.net is reiserfs... The Mozilla people are using
reiserfs on their anon-cvs server. Maybe you've had some sort of bad
experience that others haven't?
: > - support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the
: > lack of this in RH 7.0)
:
: ??? 7.0 supports this...
I've seen a number of complaints about this one. I don't have a USB keyboard
to test it with.
: > - Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases)
:
: Which enhancements, as opposed to the packages from 7.0? The code is
: almost identical.
Their default setup is more usable, IMHO. Also, I haven't been able to
replicate the menu that the Helix distribution provides on the top of the
screen.. I can't explain why, but their distribution (at least on my
machine) seems more responsive than the stock RH 7.0 GNOME packages.
: > - KDE 2.0
:
: Done, see rawhide or http://www.linux-easy.com/rh-updates/
rawhide != stable release. I'm not saying the work's not done, I'm just
making a list of stuff I'd like to see in the next stable release. Some
of the stuff IS done already.
: > - Non-GNOME/KDE setups:
: > - WindowMaker
:
: It's there...
This is one of the "already done".
: > - MTA: Postfix
: Powertools.
: > - SSL/TLS patches
: Powertools rawhide.
This should not be in powertools, but rather in the main distribution. It's
a lot more useful than what's in the main dist (sendmail).
: > - IMAP: UW IMAP-2000
: > - SSL/TLS activated
:
: Errata.
:
: > - Apache 1.3.14
: > - mod_perl
: > - PHP4
: > - WebDAV
: > - mod_ssl
:
: They're there...
:
: > - Some sort of Servlet/JSP engine (Tomcat? Resin?)
:
: If you can supply us with a free JDK, no problem. ;)
Just because you guys don't ship it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
Sun has RPMs of JDK 1.3.0, and the blackdown.org people have packages
that would be trivial do turn into RPMs. Ok, put the servlets/jsps
in powertools, and make them depend on the Sun j2sdk rpm.
I noticed you removed the info I put up about roxen...
: > - Netscape 6.x
:
: Why would you want Netscape's fork rather than the real Mozilla?
: Most of mozilla's CVS snapshots work better (for me) than the Netscape 6.0
: release...
No particular reason.. If the newer Mozilla builds work better, than that's
fine w/me.. It MUST have SSL support though - is PSM being kept up to date?
: > - links w/SSL
: > - lynx w/SSL
:
: Rawhide.
Neither of the packages that are in Rawhide have SSL. At least the files
that are on the rpmfind.net mirror of rawhide don't. Do the files on
rawhide.redhat.com have SSL support?
:
: > - Downloaders
: > - Downloader for X
: > - the GNOME panel applet to match
:
: What does it add that no other package we're shipping can do?
Drag a link from netscape to the applet, and it grabs the file for you.
It's very nice when you've got 10 or 15 things to grab, and don't want to
have little netscape windows all over the place.
: > - CUPS (beats the heck out of LPRng!)
:
: Powertools.
: If you'd like to see LPRng and CUPS exchanged (CUPS in the distribution
: and LPRng in Powertools), show us a couple of good reasons...
How about 3? :)
1) Better printer support, through cups-drivers. I think that's really
all the reason you should need, by itself. You can make use of all
of those features your printer has, but you never use, since you're
just printing using lpr. Take a look at stuff like gtklp - together
with CUPS gives you much more powerful printing than "Output this to
lpr".
2) Easier to create a unified printing interface. It's a snap to print
to local (parallel port) printers, as well as lpr, ipp, and smb with
no hassle. Web-based management that can be secured over the LAN.
BTW - the web tool is much better than printtool... KDE users can have
kups, which is another good configuration interface. On the other side
of things (being a print server), you can easily serve up IPP, lpr,
smb with samba (printing = cups in the smb.conf).
3) IPP is the future direction of network printing.
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
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