any chance the cards are  losing out  between half and full duplex?  Some
cards are  not auto select, and some hubs are and some aren't  full duplex
capable, though most of the full duplex card specs I've read say they will
autoselect....
brian
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>Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result.
>The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO
>others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same
>settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the
>hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs.
>
>Jack Bowling
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