On 25 Dec 2001, Edward C. Bailey wrote:

> >>>>> "rpjday" == rpjday  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ...
> rpjday> which brings up a sticky issue: given that the main page of that
> rpjday> site clearly states that "This site is NOT an official Red Hat
> rpjday> site.", by whose authority are you using the trademarked name "Red
> rpjday> Hat Linux", not to mention incorporating the trademarked shadow man
> rpjday> logo on that web page?
> 
> He's a Red Hat employee.

i'm aware of that.  but it's not at all clear why that gives him
special privileges, any more than being an employee of, say, ford
motor company would give that employee the right to use ford's
trademark.

i've perused the pages regarding trademarks at www.redhat.com, and page 4
of that collection of pages states that the only way to use the trademark
"red hat", or the shadowman logo, is by entering into a written license
agreement with red hat.  ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS. (emphasis in original)
> 
> rpjday> some day, it really would be nice if we could get this whole
> rpjday> trademark issue settled.
> 
> The issue is being discussed within the company.  Unfortunately, due to the
> holiday shutdown, it will be a while before anything is publicly
> announced.  Rest assured that the issue is not going to stand as-is
> forever...

that's good to hear since, as it is, the current situation is confusing,
bordering on intolerable.  can someone write a book on "red hat linux
administration" without signing an agreement with red hat?  can someone
say that their web site is "powered by red hat" without signing an
agreement?  and do i need to point out the absurdity of on-line
stores like cheapbytes or linuxmall, being able to completely legally
*sell* copies of red hat linux, but not legally being able to 
*identify* what they're selling?  the mind reels.

sorry to harp on this, but i think this is a fairly serious issue.
for better or worse, the brand name "red hat" is, in some parts of
the world, becoming synonymous with "linux".  and red hat desperately
needs to clarify what people can and cannot do with that brand name.
and telling people that they can't refer to red hat linux as "red hat
linux" is not a reasonable approach.

anyway, i'll just hang out and wait for the word from red hat.

rday





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