At 5:38 PM -0500 3/18/02, Mike Burger wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Patrick Beart wrote:
>  > >
>>  >On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Patrick Beart wrote:
>>  >  >        I'm new to the whole "security" thing, but I've learned that
>>  >>a hardware appliance is better than software, if only for the fact that
>>  >>someone is technically already IN the machine when they hit the firewall
>  > >>software. ...snip...
>  > >
>  > ...snip...
>>      Having a PHYSICAL device sitting AHEAD of your server(s) is,
>>  IMO, far superior to having the "software" sitting in that same
>  > server box(-es). ...snip...
>  >    I want the big electronic "bouncer" sitting OUTSIDE my
>>  virtual house, not in the foyer.
>
>You've apparently missed the point that you could just as easily take an
>old PC, install Linux with IPTables and just use it as a firewall, outside
>of your servers, themselves.



        Why would I, or anyone, want to dedicate an entire 1U of 
space (or MORE!) for a firewall device when my Netscreen isn't any 
bigger than a 4 port hub? (about 5 x 6 inches) Seems like a waste of 
cabinet space to me, ... unless you're trying to secure more than a 
full cabinet worth of servers.




>I'm doing this, here...I have a Pentium 200 dedicated to nothing but
>iptables firewalling, and then I also have some additional iptables
>firewalling on the server, itself.
>
>A little double whammy for the bad guys.


        It's also twice the debugging, editing, and troubleshooting. 
Enjoy!    ;-)




Patrick Beart
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