At 5/6/2002 06:45 PM -0400, you wrote:
>With all due respect you sir are an idiot and a hazard to the rest of the
>community.  After being hacked three separate times I would've thought
>that you would agree that you need more security.  However, you continue
>to spout the above dribble to those trying to help you.

Gerry, the point is overdramatized and rather offensive despite being based 
on some hard truths.

It is true that Glen should never have been hacked three times, and that 
this fact alone shows carelessness or ignorance bordering on 
irresponsibility. It is also true that most of us are, at one time or 
another, so stubborn that we resist help, even help we desperately need.

Glen has clearly fscked up here. However, all of us (you too, I'm sure) 
have been that stupid at one time or another and this is *NOT* a reason to 
give up. If all who committed stupid mistakes went home, there would be, as 
Patrick said, no one left to run servers.

Besides, while stubborn and careless Glen shows intelligence and a 
willingness to admit when he's wrong; both of which are worth respect in 
their turn.


-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz
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