Ed Wilts wrote:

>On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 09:16:26AM -0700, Robert Monical wrote:
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>>I installed RedHat 7.2 last night: boxed set.
>>When I tried to run up2date wu-ftpd I get a message (this was midnight 
>>Pacific time).
>>Due to extremely high traffic.............
>>
>>I then found the place to register a 30 day subscription to software 
>>updates from the Product Activation Card.
>>
>>This morning I was able to execute up2date wu-ftpd.
>>
>>At $60/year for a basic subscription RHN becomes more expensive than 
>>Win2K-Pro ($165/updates are free). Less if you have a bunch of NT 4 WS 
>>licenses to upgrade, as do I. The numbers make more sense when compared to 
>>Win2K Server pricing. Note that u$oft Licensing allows me to run Oracle on 
>>Win2k Pro and I am not detecting any ill effects in our environment.
>>    
>>
>
>A WinXP Pro license retails for $199.  No volume license will give you a
>full license - they're all upgrade licenses.  A new release comes out
>every few years.  Do the math based on a 3 or 5 year cycle.
>
>Note that up2date is optional.  You can freely ftp the updates any time
>and apply them.  up2date is an extra service to help you manage those
>updates, something that neither Sun nor  Microsoft offer.  
>
>  
>
>>2.  Pay more than for Solaris Intel and Win2K Pro to have a critical update 
>>service.
>>    
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>
>Nope - all the critical updates are free.  What you pay for the smooth
>integration of those updates, and for a single system, even those are
>free. 
>
>  
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>>Was my experience with up2date last night an anomaly?
>>    
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>Not really.  I see this whenever a large batch of updates come through.
>If I have Internet-facing servers that are at risk because those updates
>aren't applied, I simply ftp the patches down and apply them, then later
>on do an up2date -p to bring the package list up to date.
>
>        .../Ed
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>
Check out the KRUD distro.  RedHat with monthly patches applied.  You 
get a new distro every month.  Mount it on a service and do the upgrades 
from the server for all bazillion of your servers.  Total cost per year 
is one subscription, around $65.

check it out:
http://www.tummy.com/krud

Fred







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