03/26/2007 lspp Meeting Minutes:
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  Attendees

  Lawrence Wilson (IBM) - LW
  George Wilson (IBM) - GW
  Kris Wilson (IBM) - KEW
  Loulwa Salem (IBM) - LS
  Michael Thompson (IBM) - MT
  Joy Latten (IBM) - JL
  Kent Yoder (IBM) - KY
  Klaus Kiwi (IBM) - KK
  Irina Boverman (Red Hat) - IB
  Dan Walsh (Red Hat) - DW
  Eric Paris (Red Hat) - EP
  Lisa Smith (HP) - LMS
  Linda Knippers (HP) - LK
  Amy Griffis (HP) - AG
  Matt Anderson (HP) - MA
  Paul Moore (HP) - PM
  Klaus Weidner (Atsec) - KW
  Chad Hanson (TCS) - CH


Agenda:

                 General Issues
                 Bug Discussion

Repo: http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/files/lspp/

RHEL 5+ Packages:

                 acl-2.2.39-2.1.el5
                 audit-1.3.1-3.el5
                 audit-libs-1.3.1-3.el5
                 audit-libs-devel-1.3.1-3.el5
                 audit-libs-python-1.3.1-3.el5
                 cups-1.2.4-11.6.el5
                 cups-devel-1.2.4-11.6.el5
                 cups-libs-1.2.4-11.6.el5
                 cups-lpd-1.2.4-11.6.el5
                 ipsec-tools-0.6.5-6.2.el5
                 kernel-2.6.18-8.1.1.lspp.70.el5
                 kernel-devel-2.6.18-8.1.1.lspp.70.el5
                 kernel-doc-2.6.18-8.1.1.lspp.70.el5
                 libacl-2.2.39-2.1.el5
                 libacl-devel-2.2.39-2.1.el5
                 libselinux-1.33.4-4.el5
                 libselinux-devel-1.33.4-4.el5
                 libselinux-python-1.33.4-4.el5
                 mcstrans-0.2.3-1.el5
                 openssh-4.3p2-20.el5
                 openssh-askpass-4.3p2-20.el5
                 openssh-clients-4.3p2-20.el5
                 openssh-server-4.3p2-20.el5
                 pam-0.99.6.2-3.17.el5
                 pam-devel-0.99.6.2-3.17.el5
                 selinux-policy-2.4.6-45.el5
                 selinux-policy-devel-2.4.6-45.el5
                 selinux-policy-mls-2.4.6-45.el5
                 selinux-policy-strict-2.4.6-45.el5
                 selinux-policy-targeted-2.4.6-45.el5
                 vixie-cron-4.1-67.el5

                 lspp-eal4-config-ibm-0.21-1
                 rbac-self-test (TBD in config RPM)

Tracker Bug: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=224041

Query: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=RHEL%205.0%

20LSPP&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&order=bugs.bug_id

    GW: while we are waiting, has anyone been able to get aide to run from
        command line as any role or level? I get a policy TE violation. I'm
        thinking I'll send patch to maybe fix that.
    PM: is there a chance I can get copy of .47 policy?
    DW: it is on my people page now and when Steve gets back I'll ask him to put
        it on his repo page
    PM: I'll try to verify the bug about netlabel
    DW: Loulwa tried it
    LS: It didn't work for me .. I still see the same error and get that
        SELINUX-ERR record.
    DW: try to reinstall it
    LS: the policy?
    DW: yeah .. force install it to make sure it loaded correctly. I don't see
        this behavior on my system
    GW: I need to ask Steve about success case audit record for self tests. I
        am using ANOM_RBAC_FAIL record type, even in success case, but that
        doesn't make sense... if anyone has ideas or if we need to add one more
        type.. Any other comments on self tests are appreciated, I made changes
        to them and I know they are not perfect, but need to get aide working
        for them to succeed
    DW: generate policy module and load it, see if it works
    GW: exactly, I need to do that and send you a patch. once I get comments for
        that I'll work with Klaus to incorporate it into his spec file and put
        it in KS config. This will be one of final pieces. We are looking good
        in .70 kernel. Looks like we have soft lockups ...
    LS: yes.. I saw it after trying to execute an semanage command to configure
        our ealuser, when I was talking to Dan on IRC.
    GW: looks like we made good progress ... but the soft lockup issue is not
        put to rest. if folks can run stress that may help recreate it. if that
        is problematic, we might have another fix. should Loulwa open a bug or
        append to existing bug.
    IB: append it to the same one if you think it's the same
    LS: I don't think it's the same.. the bug I was verifying when this happened
        is related to netlabelctl.
    LK: what arch are you seeing this on?
    LS: ppc
    LK: there is a bugzilla that Eric was working on that he decided it might
        have been related to debug option being on x86_64. It solved my problem
        .. that's why I was asking about arch .. but the issue you  are seeing
        sounds different
    LS: I'll just add to it. Linda do you know the bug number?
    LK: 231392
    LS: thanks
    GW: any other general issue we need to discuss, ok let's go through the bug
        list

Bug List:
218386 nor nor pow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: labeled ipsec does not work over loopback
    JL: working on it right now ..
    GW: do you have ETA
    LS: on Friday .. but hopefully before
    GW: so the 30th.

223840 hig nor All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI [LSPP] getfacl fails to correctly display all information...
    KK: fixed
    GW: can we close it
    KK: yes
    KW: there is package that is on Steve's page, assuming we get final package
        similar to that one. If RH is going to exclude any patches from the
        package, I ask that you please let us know .. so far now we are assuming
        all packages on lspp repo will be part of the certification
    IB: can you test it and add comments and say you tested it please
    KK: yes .. I can

225328 nor nor All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: ipsec drops first packet when using IKE daemon
    JL: I sent patch friday evening to Dave miller and he sent reply back that
        he will look at it. I have not heard back from him. but I tested with
        that patch and didn't see double SAs anymore. I'll use that in case he
        likes it.. for now I am waiting on feedback
    GW: do you know when that will occur
    JL: no, he said he had some ipv6 stuff to do then he'll look at this..
        hopefully today or tomorrow.
    GW: if you don't get feedback we need to follow up
    JL: I'll ask Eric to ping him then .. [eric joins]. Eric can you ping Dave
        miller if I don't hear from him in couple of days.
    EP: yes ..

225443  nor     nor     ppc     [EMAIL PROTECTED]       ASSI    LSPP: No 
console login on first boot
    DW: should be fixed by -47 patch.
    LK: I reopened it since I didn't see it.
    DW: I checked the policy to make sure it is fixed in there.. it should be
    LK: can you update bugzilla?
    DW: yes ... just about to do that

228107 nor nor All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI [LSPP] Labels for labeled printing don't linewrap
    LK: I know he submitted a patch .. not sure if it is in the current package
    IB: it's hard to say .. I'll send mail to Tim asking about status of this
        patch.

228366 nor nor All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: audit does not log obj label for signal recipient
    AG: I sent Eric patch and think it'll be in next kernel.
    EP: hopefully kernel will come out tomorrow morning.
    GW: Eric, you weren't in when Loulwa talked about the soft lockup ..
    EP: no ..
    GW: Loulwa will append info to current soft lockup bug .. is that ok, or
        should she open a new one?
    EP: yes, append to old one is fine

230613 urg nor All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI [LSPP] cups is allowing users to delete other user's job
    GW: I think it's not in current cups package
    KK: it's waiting for upstream acceptance
    GW: we have at least another iteration of cups and kernel then
    KW: if we don't have the patch in, the plan is to require authentication for
        every cups action .. when we use authentication, we need to use rules
        like pam tally. .. that will be easy to update the pam files but will
        need a policy change as well. If patch gets accepted we can turn off
        authentication
    MA: pam tally was already addressed in policy so we shouldn't have problems
        there. The config prompt entry is the same, if patch is accepted we
        won't get password prompt and if we don't get patch accepted then we'll
        get password prompt.
    KW: should I have it deal with the two options?
    GW: will that have documentation affect
    MA: ...
    KW: if patch is included and authentication is bypassed does that mean it
        doesn't call pam at all?
    MA: yes, it is not calling pam at all .. what happens is the server calls
        getpeercon ..
    KW: to verify that in that case you are not authentication user so you don't
        need audit record. Does cups have auditing?
    MA: it does have audit when you try to run as a user.
    KW: ok .. that's good
    GW: Joy is working loopback patch which will take until Friday .. and this
        issue is pending acceptance.. I am trying to decide what's the one with
        the long hold here
    MA: Tim is concerned about not getting acceptance from upstream. but his
        patch and mine got good testing from me and Klaus so we can position it
        for that
    GW: when will we make that position .. to run with what we have or wait for 
        
        upstream acceptance
    LK: Steve can create a package for us with all we need .. basically until it
        is in an rpm, limited number of people are testing it.
    GW: exactly what I was thinking.
    IB: I'll talk to Steve

230620  med     nor     All     [EMAIL PROTECTED]       ASSI    LSPP: 
xfrm_add_sa_expire bug
    JL: waiting to run test to verify
    GW: target today?
    JL: yes

230663 med urg s39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: random problems with the python rpm
    GW: kylie is not on ..
    IB: in her comment she was able to complete test successfully.
    GW: is this a memory corruption issue ...
    IB: it looks like label issue
    GW: what do we need to do on that one
    IB: she needs to confirm it works .. so we can close it
    GW: I'll put a note in there.

231090  med     urg     ppc     [EMAIL PROTECTED]       ASSI    LSPP: getattr 
causes python Segfault
    GW: says it's blocking as of the 21st
    IB: basically Steve spoke with Jeremy and he wasn't able to reproduce it
    KW: can you retest with .70 kernel as well
    GW: ok .. putting note in there

231178  urg     med     s39     [EMAIL PROTECTED]       NEW     LSPP: setfattr 
Segfaults on s390x
    GW: I thought that one also potentially was a manifestation of memory
        corruption
    IB: there is a note in there as well .. so can it be closed?
    GW: yes I'll put a note in there

231371 med med pow [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: audit=0 appears not to disable syscall auditing
    GW: I need to verify that one.

231529 hig med All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI [LSPP] bogus audit records with cups printing
    KK: we had discussion about that one
    MA: I think it can be closed
    GW: Klaus do you think it's working?
    KK: yes .. I think so
    LK: I believe Steve wanted it open
    KW: I don't think we have time to make that change
    LK: It needed a big change in cups ..
    DW: I don't think the change will make an effect on security either. I'll
        talk to Steve about it

232508 nor med All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: racoon segfaults between a 64bit platfom and a 32 b...
    JL: I'll verify .. as soon as I get my hands on x86_64

232524 med med All [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW LSPP: the audit record for ipsec when printing ipv6 addre...
    JL: will verify if it is in there already. This is the small space issue.

233153 med med x86 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: semanage not always removing entry from /etc/selinu...
    DW: I don't understand how you got this nodes.local .. not sure where it
        comes from
    JL: I think kylie opened that one .. cause when she was trying to remove a
        tunnel device, the entry was not being removed from the nodes.local
    GW: he is asking where the nodes.local is coming from
    DW: right.. but I don't see the nodes.local
    JL: ok.. I'll look through that right now.. I didn't see how kylie wrote up
        the bug report
    GW: I am commenting on bug with 'please verify bug report is accurate.. what
        is the notes.local, and where does it come from'
    KW: also try to verify the .70 kernel while you're at it

233186 med med All [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASSI LSPP: Add audit rule bit operators patch
    GW: This is a steve's one... it's assigned
    EP: I thought that should have been off the list
    IB: why should it be off the list .. it looks like Steve has patch ..
    EP: oh. that's the user space portion, ok .. nevermind
    KW: this is not required for evaluation, so we can remove it from this
        tracker ..
    IB: Steve wanted it in and I believe he thinks it's important .. I'll check
        with him

233387 med med All [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW LSPP: security check needed when flushing SAD and SPD
    JL: I just sent my reworked patch to netdev and Dave miller .. I sent it
        before and they didn't like it .. so hopefully this is it ...

    GW: do you have any other issues ...
    MT: Yes .. on ppc, we have what I think is an audit issue with the pread
        syscall.. pread has 4 args, the fourth argument (a3 in audit log) is
        always logged as 0 regardless of value we provide. it works fine on 64
        bit. It could be anything from glibc to audit issue. I don't know how   
        pread is implemented.. but it does function correctly
    EP: is it only on pread
    MT: yeah ... that's all I see it on..
    EP: open a bug and assign to eparis
    KW: not an evaluation issue either .. but report it to track it
    GW: but it would be good if it's fixed and included in
    KW: I have a kickstart update.. that has a listing of all packages with a
        version number .. please I would appreciate feedback if this works for
        everyone. Other than minor issues like cups for example.. I think it
        should be complete. Linda you wanted to have a way to remove the role
        selection .. but try to do it as part of your program
    LK: ok
    MA: Does this version mention the cups-lpd package
    KW: no, it does not .. do you expect it to?
    MA: no, it shouldn't .. I just wanted to check
    EP: on that last note.. if cups-lpd is in the repo, and shouldn't be then go
        ahead and let Steve know.
    KW: if people follow instructions, then the kickstart should not install it
        anyway.
    MA: yeah, I remember I only saw it on george's list
    GW: yup .. I took my list off the repo... what I should do is maybe take it
        directly from klaus's list. Ok .. so if there is nothing else .. then
        we'll adjourn .. thanks everyone.

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