You too, can't take the story of Sunderland losing?

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:

> ENOUGH!
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And they beat Sunderland.
>>
>> Who, by the way, scored in the Moor pit, or whatever the hell that pitch
>> is called.
>>
>> Something ManU was unable to accomplish.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Burnley beat Manchester United in their first home game in England's
>>> top division in 33 years. It's the equivalent of some small college beating
>>> Duke in the NCAA basketball tournament.
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 9/24/09, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: Winning the Wildcard
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:10 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>  Burnly just beat someone a week or so ago and it was fantastic.  They’d
>>> gotten crushed the week before.  And their fans were crazy happy.  They’d
>>> just come up this season.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ****************************
>>>
>>> John Paul Beaudoin, Sr.
>>>
>>> Mentor Graphics Corporation
>>>
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>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Matt & Olga McSorley
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:40 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Relegation also takes away any incentive to lose, as teams have now with
>>> the draft order inversely related to finish. I'd love to see that happen
>>> here but there's no way in hell in will.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As anyone who's seen European futbol knows, the best and most tense games
>>> of the season are the ones between the relegation strugglers at the end.
>>> Those games are truly life or death.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Matt
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 9/24/09, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Winning the Wildcard
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:32 PM
>>>
>>> I say we make a new superleague.
>>>
>>> Yankees, Boston , LA , Mets, and a couple of other big markets.
>>>
>>> Then you get relegated out of that league down to regular MLB.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Beaudoin, John <
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole relegation mantra is awesome.  I love it.  Then the AAA
>>> affiliates would be privatized and have a chance to move up from time to
>>> time as the KC’s and Expo’s of the world get relegated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interleague play lost its gimmicky luster very quickly.  Get rid of it
>>> for another generation and then maybe bring it back again.
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:15 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Relegation is a hoot.
>>>
>>> That would be another interesting twist to MLB.  A six-team league with
>>> the bottom team relegated to the regular pool.
>>>
>>> Let the revenue elephants fight it out.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:12 PM, William Marino 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t think its fewer interleague games, I think it would be better
>>> interleague games.  Sox vs. Dodgers, Phillies, Cardinals, Cubbies, Mets,
>>> etc, would all be great series.  Then, though, I guess it starts to look
>>> like a premier league, like EU soccer.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:05 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, that's why I'd favor fewer interleague games. I could get amped up
>>> with a home/away serise against the phillies (assuming the mets were the
>>> regular rivals of the yanks)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> it's too random now to generate much excitement.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM, William Marino 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like interleague play for two reasons:  first, it creates new
>>> opportunities for rivalries.  Some of them would be geographic, like the
>>> Nats and O’s (of course, it would be helpful if the teams didn’t suck), and
>>> others that seem like they just should happen—wouldn’t a Cubs- Red Sox
>>> rivalry be interesting?  Admittedly, this has not gotten as much traction as
>>> I would have thought.  The second reason is that it provides so much data
>>> about how much better the American League is than the National League.  That
>>> needs to be addressed for the long-term health of the game, and interleague
>>> play stats make that point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Btw, not sure wild card winners would fair as well as division champs in
>>> the WS.  Wild card teams have only one 4 out of 28 times (including both
>>> leagues).  How do the division champions stats look, anyone know?
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *tomsalemi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:17 PM
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> not sure about the tournament, but i agree with interleague play. or at
>>> least limit it to one or two series.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> plus, since the NHL is so keen on playing hockey in baseball stadiums. I
>>> think MLB should schedule some games on a hockey rink. Think of the hijinks!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:06 PM, rdsalemi 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would still like to get rid of interleague play, and have a set of
>>> midseason regional round-robin tournaments instead.  It would give folks two
>>> championships to shoot for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Beaudoin, John <
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Let’s not forget the 1987 Twins winning it all with a regular season
>>> record of 85-77, 52 losses on the road, 25 losses at home.  No wild card
>>> back then, but still a .525 team won it all.  Compare that to the Sox record
>>> of 98-64 in 2004.  13 games different in the regular season.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let’s face it.  The Wild Card was really the only way to go when the
>>> league expanded beyond 14 teams.  Sure there’s more revenue in the extended
>>> play-off rounds, but it just had to happen after 14 teams anyway.  It was
>>> the right thing to do.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Gendron
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:29 AM
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* RE: Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know baseball purists hate it, but I really like the wildcard system,
>>> and I think it is good for baseball.  It keeps many more teams engaged as
>>> the season winds down, and as you suggest, the second place team in a strong
>>> division is often a better playoff contender than division winners.  How
>>> many wildcard entries have won the world series?  Angels back in 2002 (I
>>> think),  Sox in 2004.  Have there been others?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto:
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:08 AM
>>> *To:* 
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Winning the Wildcard
>>>
>>>  There has always been part of me that says, "Ho hum, another wildcard.
>>> I guess it will have to do."
>>>
>>> Then I realized that the wildcard race is actually quite difficult to
>>> win.  It hearkens back to the days of old when you were competing against
>>> the entire league in the standings, and you could not hide behind a weak
>>> division.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
>>> Just 12 Weeks"
>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>>
>>> <BR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
>>> Just 12 Weeks"
>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
>>> Just 12 Weeks"
>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
>>> Just 12 Weeks"
>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in
>> Just 12 Weeks"
>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com
>>
>>
>> >>
>>


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