I'm with Dan. The brushback is part of the game. I like the story of Roger Clemens talking to, I think it was Gibson.
GIBSON: Do you know what your best pitch is? CLEMENS: No, sir. GIBSON: The second time you hit a guy. That way he knows the first time wasn't an accident. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm with Charles. The whole "you hit one of my guys so I'm gonna hit > one of your guys" thing is stupid and accomplishes nothing. > > Then again, I still don't quite understand why the catcher is allowed > to block the plate, and the runner is allowed to trample him. > > Steve O > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > I disagree re: the hitting - or rather, a brushback pitch. It's been in > the > > game forever and is certainly a 'part' of the game. The problem these > days > > is, 1) pitchers don't know how to do it (heck, they barely pitch inside > any > > more), 2) players don't understand that it's part of the game - 'show me > > up and I will show you up' and charge the mound at the slightest > provocation > > and 3) umpires are too quick to warn teams and throw pitchers out. > > > > If Burnett had any balls, he would have plunked Papi the first time he > came > > up with no one on base. > > > > Dan D > > Central NJ USA > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Charles Battikha <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 4:19:18 PM > > Subject: Re: Papi's Bat Flip > > > > I just don't see what's a big deal about a bat flip. How's that different > > than fist pumping, hands the air, screams of triumphant, etc. > > I don't care. On any side. If Arod flips a bat after a HR - great. He hit > > the home run. > > I think this view of things like bat flips being 'poor showmanship', > 'lack > > of respect' etc. is just silly. This is not T-Ball where "everyone is > > suppose to win" > > And can we please get away from 'hitting people' is part of the game. If > > someone intentionally hits someone then eject them for several games and > > move on. > > This tit for tat is in my opinion not part of the game. It's bitter and > > stupid. And certainly hitting someone because someone else hit a HR is > > equally stupid. > > My opinion. I see no reason for having it in the game. > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Steve Gendron wrote: > > > > Loved that bat flip! In fact I howled as soon as I saw it during the > game > > the other night, even rewinded (rewound?) the DVR to make sure everybody > in > > the room saw it. My wife says “You liked that arrogant little move? If > it > > was AROD that did it you’d be all over him.” She is probably right. But > > that’s because Papi is just much more loveable than AROD. J > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Dan DiBiase > > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:06 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Papi's Bat Flip > > > > I expected to see Girardi starting to strap on the gear when Cervelli got > > crunched... > > > > LOL, Mike Francesa just called this series 'disastrous'..... He's totally > > killing the Yankees, fun to hear.... > > > > > > Dan D > > Central NJ USA > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Larry Rupp <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 12:23:16 PM > > Subject: Re: Papi's Bat Flip > > > > More likely Yanks can not afford losing a starter or bench player. I > > thought the ball bounce into the groin was going to have yet another > Yankee > > catcher out of action but alas he stayed the course... > > > > Sent from Larry's mobile device > > > > On Jun 9, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "apoplectic" One of my favorite words. > > > > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I totally do. It's funny, many in the NY media are apoplectic over the > flip, > > and have taken Girardi's comments about it really > > out of context (he basically said, he didn't like it but has no issue > with > > Papi for doing it - whatever that means ;-). Many were > > calling for Sox players to be - at the very least - brushed back, and in > > some cases, drilled. I was a little surprised nothing happened > > last night, although with the Yankees being behind from the get-go, the > > opportunity didn't really present itself, I guess. But > > Roger Clemens would certainly have drilled Ellsbury in the top of the > 1st, > > to make a point. 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