Call it chemistry Call it clubhouse comaradery
But this team lacked the will and edge we had even last year to win. You started to see it in Spring Training and it permeated into the season. September just made it publicly viewable but it was there all along. My read is Tito was dealing with players complaining about 'stuff' out of his control - contracts, bus conditions, etc and watching the individuals point fingers at others rather then themselves. PA - personal accountability was gone this year. My belief is that because Tito couldn't change this (or allowed it to happen) he expressed the desire to leave and give someone else a chance to manage. I think he's making the ultimate sacrifice - himself - to get this team to realize it takes more then individuals to win a WS. It takes a team that admires more then individual talent. This is a wake up call to the Red Sox clubhouse. He will be sorely missed... Sent from Larry's mobile device On Oct 1, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Her point was that you need it when times get hard. > > I don't know, maybe this was a 1000-year flood. Maybe Theo and Tito are just > creating a narrative for themselves. > > But Tom and Matt and others didn't like this team. Something was translating > out to the fans. > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > Personally, I never was aware of any 'spirit' problems when they were > winning. But then again, I am out of the area and only > get my info primarily from boston.com and Twitter. Maybe the local radio had > rumors, etc., but I didn't see if. I assumed it was > a 'winning breeds chemistry' kind of thing. Frankly, the items mentioned in > McMullen's column that was posted yesterday > didn't seem like a big deal. Tito just seemed really drained at the end of > this season, physically and emotionally. I wonder, if > things had settled for a week, if the outcome might have been different. > > Frankly, hiring anyone associated with this team - if there really are these > pervasive issues in the clubhouse - isn't going to > solve those issues. You would really need to bring in a guy like a Valentine > of Larry Bowa to really shake things up for a couple > of years. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 11:14 PM > > Subject: Re: Tito/Theo Press Conference > > I thought it was interesting that they saw the same spirit problems with this > team as you guys. > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > What I found interesting was the idea that Tito isn't sure he WANTS to be > back. I guess I assumed he did. But with > the stress, maybe he'd rather run another smaller market club. Not sure what > openings there will be this year. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: Tito/Theo Press Conference > > This was tremendously helpful in understanding what goes on in running a team. > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > If you've got a half hour it's worth a listen. Confirmed a lot of what we > talked about, shortcomings in the club house, problems with conditioning, etc. > > At one point Theo said he's got respect for "most of the guys in that club > house." 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