There is a lot of "Ignoring how well they pitch" arguments lately. Especially in terms of Beckett.
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > Oh come on. > > Jon Lester -- last September aside -- has been an ace-level pitcher for > four years. Beckett has mixed in some crappy years, but as recently as last > year, he had a 2.89 ERA, 1.03 WHIP and 147 ERA+ (5th in the AL, even with > September). Buchholz was 17-7, 2.33 in 2010, 6-3, 3.48 before getting hurt > in 2011. > > The Sox and their fans are not idiots for mistaking them for legit > starters. They do appear -- by every definition of the word -- to suck > right now, but they were practically the definition of 1-2-3 starters. > > Steve O > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Ray Daniel Salemi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The problem with the Red Sox, and their fans, is that they mistook >> Lester, Beckett, and Buchholz for MLB as legit 1-2-3 starters. These guys >> are simply not very good. Perhaps they were once. Perhaps they had some >> luck in their youth. But they suck--plain and simple. >> >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Steve Ouellette < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That's the thing with the Sox -- all the hand-wringing and nitpicking >>> and chicken/beer/golf comes down to one thing: If Lester, Beckett and >>> Buchholz pitch like legit 1-2-3 starters, they're a good team. If they >>> don't, they're screwed and there's really no way to replace them. >>> >>> Right now they're pitching like >>> >>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Man, if we had ANY starting pitching at all, the way the relievers have >>>> been pitching, we'd be in great shape. >>>> >>>> Dan D >>>> Central NJ USA >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en.
