I agree with your ambivalence. It's just that I felt equally ambivalent about Aviles.
So I don't know what to feel. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Didn't say that. I'm just not sure why the sox were so fixated on a guy on > a path to be fired or at least not renewed by his own team. > > Anyway, not worth arguing over. > > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Why. They had a contract. That means nothing? >> >> >> On Oct 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would have resented sending Toronto a dozen Dunkin Donuts. Seems wrong. >> >> >> But I'm glad they resolved it quickly. >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Aviles? There are at least 20 Aviles's out there. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree - Farrell will be good for us however we should NOT have given >>>> up Aviles for him. We got yet another Carpenter pitcher in return (can you >>>> say Theo trade?) - I think someone in FO keeps thinking it's "THE" >>>> Carpenter rather than just another Carpenter. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I'm happy we have a >>>>> manager. I'm happy we have Farrell. I'm not really disappointed about >>>>> losing Aviles. But I resent having to give him up for a mediocre manager. >>>>> >>>>> But I'm glad it's over. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ray Daniel Salemi < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well..Aviles was no Scutaro. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forsooth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So another year where we dump out starting shortstop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dan D >>>>>>> Central NJ USA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From:* Ray Daniel Salemi <[email protected]> >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:41 PM >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Indeed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Huh >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: "Red Sox Ticket Office" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Oct 21, 2012 2:06 PM >>>>>>> Subject: John Farrell Named Red Sox Manager >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Click >>>>>>> here<http://link.redsox.com/m/1/95601068/b29512-b37917c0-e484-421b-8e52-5b0a0a285206/11/173/de52b46c-f147-4624-a858-6b8ea5a53511>if >>>>>>> you are having trouble viewing this message. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Season Ticket Holders, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is my great pleasure to let you know that John Farrell has >>>>>>> officially been named the next manager of the Boston Red Sox. We are >>>>>>> thrilled to welcome John back to the Red Sox family. Please see the >>>>>>> release >>>>>>> below with complete details. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We will host a conference call with John and season ticket holders >>>>>>> in the coming weeks so John can personally share his vision for leading >>>>>>> this team. We will provide further information including the date and >>>>>>> time >>>>>>> for that call as soon as it is confirmed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We hope you are as excited as we are for the next chapter of Red >>>>>>> Sox baseball. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam Kennedy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chief Operating Officer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *RED SOX NAME JOHN FARRELL MANAGER* >>>>>>> *Mike Aviles sent to Toronto; * >>>>>>> *Red Sox receive right-hander David Carpenter* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOSTON, MA -- The Boston Red Sox today announced that they have >>>>>>> acquired Manager John Farrell from the Toronto Blue Jays and agreed to a >>>>>>> three-year contract that will run through 2015. As compensation to the >>>>>>> Blue Jays, to whom Farrell was under contract through 2013, the Red Sox >>>>>>> sent shortstop Mike Aviles and received in return right-handed pitcher >>>>>>> David Carpenter. The Red Sox sought and received permission from >>>>>>> Toronto >>>>>>> to talk directly to Farrell and made the agreement late last night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Farrell, 50, was the Red Sox’ pitching coach from 2007-10, a period >>>>>>> in which the staff held opponents to an American League-low .254 batting >>>>>>> average and led the league in strikeouts (4,771). Farrell is the >>>>>>> seventh >>>>>>> manager in major league history acquired by one club while under >>>>>>> contract >>>>>>> to another. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “I’m extremely excited to be returning to the Red Sox and to >>>>>>> Boston,” said Farrell. “I love this organization. It’s a great >>>>>>> franchise >>>>>>> in a special city and region, with great fans, and we want nothing more >>>>>>> than to reward their faith in us.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “We are thrilled to name John Farrell as our new manager,” said >>>>>>> Executive Vice-President/General Manager Ben Cherington, who made the >>>>>>> announcement. “John has been a major league pitcher, front office >>>>>>> executive, coach, and manager. His broad set of experiences, and >>>>>>> exceptional leadership skills, make him the ideal person to lead our >>>>>>> team. >>>>>>> I have known him in various capacities throughout my career, and I hold >>>>>>> him >>>>>>> in the highest regard as a baseball man and as a person.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Under Farrell, the Blue Jays finished 81-81 (.500) in 2011 and 73-89 >>>>>>> (.451) in 2012. Prior to joining the Red Sox in 2007, Farrell spent >>>>>>> five >>>>>>> years as Director of Player Development for the Cleveland Indians >>>>>>> (November, 2001-November, 2006). The Indians earned “Organization of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Year” honors in 2003 and 2004 from *USA Today’s Sports Weekly* and >>>>>>> were named by *Baseball America* as the top farm system in 2003. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> “We met some outstanding managerial candidates in this process,” >>>>>>> said Red Sox President/CEO Larry Lucchino. “John Farrell brings a >>>>>>> unique >>>>>>> blend of managerial experience, leadership and presence, pitching >>>>>>> expertise, front office experience, and an established track record with >>>>>>> many members of our uniformed staff and members of our front office. He >>>>>>> will hit the ground running.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When Farrell was Boston’s pitching coach, right-hander Clay Buchholz >>>>>>> and southpaw Jon Lester were All-Stars. In his first year with the Red >>>>>>> Sox, the club won the 2007 World Series. They reached the postseason >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> of his first three seasons in Boston. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Compensation to acquire a manager from another club has been >>>>>>> required four times previously, and 52 years ago, two managers were >>>>>>> traded >>>>>>> for each other. In September, 2011, Miami acquired Ozzie Guillen and >>>>>>> right-hander Ricardo Andres from the White Sox and sent right-hander >>>>>>> Jhan >>>>>>> Marinez and infielder Ozzie Martinez. In October, 2002, Tampa Bay >>>>>>> acquired >>>>>>> Lou Piniella and infielder Antonio Perez from Seattle and sent >>>>>>> outfielder >>>>>>> Randy Winn. In November, 1976, Pittsburgh acquired Chuck Tanner and >>>>>>> cash >>>>>>> from Oakland and sent catcher Manny Sanguillen. In November, 1967, the >>>>>>> Mets acquired Gil Hodges from Washington and sent right-hander Bill >>>>>>> Denehy >>>>>>> and cash. During the 1960 season, managers Joe Gordon and Jimmy Dykes >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> swapped by Cleveland and Detroit, respectively. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Farrell’s first year as the Red Sox’ pitching coach, the staff >>>>>>> led the American League with a 3.87 ERA (618 ER/1,438.2 IP). Red Sox >>>>>>> pitchers also led the AL in strikeouts with 1,185 in 2008 and 1,207 in >>>>>>> 2010. From 2007-10, hurlers posted the third-best ERA in the league, >>>>>>> 4.11 >>>>>>> (2,637 ER/5,778.1 IP). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aviles, 31, played 136 games for the Red Sox in 2012, primarily at >>>>>>> shortstop (128 games). He hit .250 with 13 home runs and 60 RBI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carpenter, 27, has struck out 60 in 60 innings over 67 career major >>>>>>> league games, all in relief, with the Astros (2011-12) and Blue Jays >>>>>>> (2012). 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