Ooops, confused again. I understand the concept of a dedicated circuit I know what a GFI outlet looks like and have installed them, they are not that expensive What I don't understand is the price of $85 vs $225. A GFI outlet is not $140. Does it cost $85 to have an outlet placed in the wall and $225 to have that outlet be on it's own dedicated circuit ? I promise not to ask anymore questions about this !!! -----Original Message----- From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:15 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: GFIs Basically. The way it works is that the builder will install the GFIs into the wall, like a normal plug in. They then run the wires to the circuit breaker box and wire them into their own circuit breaker, separate from all other plugs in the house. They are not a special type of circuit breaker, but instead it is a separate circuit breaker that is wired in specifically to the GFIs that I select. I could run both (I say both because the wall that my tank will be on comes standard with two plug ins) of them into the same circuit breaker, or I could run each of them into their own individual circuit breaker. You can even have an electrician come to an already built home and have them install a specific circuit breaker for your tank and run GFIs into that circuit breaker using the same wires that the original plug ins were wired to. They would just trade those plug ins with GFIs. That would separate your GFIs from all other appliances in the house, and would put the tank on its own circuit. I was just thinking it might be nice to do it now, while the house is being built. Sorry if this is confusing! Shane -----Original Message----- From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GFIs So you're telling me that their exists special circuit breakers that have GFI built into them and those breaker are (225-85) dollars more expensive. I see now. I didn't realize that - and I like it !! If it were me I'd do two circuits with these special breakers. I know it's $280 but it could save someone's life. -----Original Message----- From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:54 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: GFIs Hi Andrew. It is not necessarily a problem. It is an opportunity, I guess. Our house is being built, and I have the chance to have the tanks outlets run on their own circuit, to their own fuse. So the tank would have its own circuit breaker. You know how you have the breaker box that has things marked, like the washer and dryer. If there is a problem, the breaker will switch off, and you have to throw that switch to turn it back on. Well, I can have one of these for the tank. Not only that, but I can have one for each of the outlets if I want. The advantage is that the tank would have its own circuit breaker, and so I could flip that breaker switch and turn the tank off without turning anything else in the house off. Not only that, but having its own circuit would help insure that I don't overload the circuit because I am sharing it with other household items. If overloading a circuit is not a concern with my tank, then I would gladly save the money and simply switch the regular outlets with GFIs and run it on the normal circuit. Does anyone know if overloading would every be a problem or if I should run the tank on its own circuit or should I simply switch the outlets out for GFIs myself? Thanks again! Shane -----Original Message----- From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GFIs I don't have a clear understanding of the problem here but let me throw in my two cents. First of all I applaued your desire to use a GFI circuit. I install them whereever I have a tank. Look folks, seawater and electricity CAN KILL YOU. We have our hand and our children's hands in these tank. Second, what I usually do is buy a GFI outlet to replace the standard outlet that is in the wall. Perhaps what you are talking about is even better but these replacement outlets are only $20-$30. -----Original Message----- From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: GFIs All (and any electricians), I would like to have the builders of our home install GFIs into the wall that my tank will be on. The wall will have to separate plugs, but right now both run on the same circuit, along with about 3 other plugs. I am contemplating having them run the two along the wall of my tank on their own circuit. So the tank will have its own fuse etc. My question is this. Do you all think that just running those two by themselves will be sufficient, or should I run each of the two GFIs to their own circuit. Another words, I could use one GFI for the lights, and it would be run to its own fuse and then the other would run my pumps and chiller, and it would be run to its own fuse. Advantages would be no power interrupt for the lights when the chiller kicks on, as well as the ability to power off the lights w/o powering off the pumps or vice versa. The lights would be getting their own circuit. I am looking at running about 1500 watts of light over about 200-225 gallons of water. If I share a circuit with the two of them, would that overload it? The disadvantage of doing it is they are about 225 bucks a piece if I run each of them on a separate circuit. If it is necessary, I will do it. If I can just run the two of them on their own circuit, and will be just fine, I will go that route. Then they are $85.00 each. TIA, Shane C. ________________________________________ LEAVING THE LIST ================ To stop receiving messages you will need to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a command to remove you from the list. The list manager controls who belongs to the list. For example: -------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: <not needed> UNSUBSCRIBE -------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________ LEAVING THE LIST ================ To stop receiving messages you will need to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a command to remove you from the list. 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