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-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
October 01, 2001 3:02 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
Actually, I dont get
much coraline growth. I have too much light for
coraline to thrive. Lower in
the where it grows a bit, it is a light purple.
Shane
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:01
PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
>
> Thanks Shane. Your MH is 5k, are you getting pink
coralline algae or other
> colors are inlcuded??
>
>
TIA.
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Clays [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 12:42 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
>
>
> My MHs are 5k. They work well. You will
want the actinic for sure though.
> If
> you go LPS and softies,
with a healthy growth of caluerpa and doing your
> water changes
religously, you should be able to get away without a
> skimmer.
>
You will want to watch your nitrate levels, but I think you will be okay
>
without one. I ran a 20 gallon mico reef for a year without a skimmer,
but
> I
> changed 10 gallons of water weekly.
>
>
Shane
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose
Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday,
October 01, 2001 10:38 AM
> > To:
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> > Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
> >
> > Thanks
Shane !
> > i have two more questions:
> >
> > I can
get very cheap 55 watts PC�s bulbs, but they are 5000k only. Can
>
be
> > used in a reef aquarium?
> > If I go with a refugium,
Do I still need a skimmer on the system?
> >
> > TIA.
>
>
> > Reef Man
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> > -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Shane Clays [ < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>]
> >
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:23 PM
> > To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need
some advices.....
> >
> >
> > 2 daylight PCs (or VHO)
and one NO actinic would be perfect. I would go
> > that
> >
route. You will spend a lot of money in replacement bulbs for the LOAs,
>
so
> > in the long run, they wont be much cheaper. Plus the PCs will be
much
> > cleaner and easier to install.
> >
> >
IMO,
> > Shane C.
> >
> > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001
10:21 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need
some advices.....
> > >
> > > Plan "B"
> >
>
> > > If the skimmer Idea will not work, I will put a T and a
ball valve to
> > > divide the water that is comming to the tank to
feed the refugium. I
> > think
> > > is a better Idea as I
can see with your recommendations Shane.
> > > Talking about "LOA
fixtures" supose you have 3 13 watts PC�s in only
> one
> > >
socket. As I mentioned, they are 50 watts and 6500k. Beutifull light.
>
> the
> > > advantages of them,
> > > -I can get it
here in Mexico.
> > > -They have the correct k rate to light a reef
tank.
> > >
> > > Disadvantages,
> > > -They
will cost me the same as 55 watts PC bulb.
> > > -Their size is
about 6" large
> > > -The duration of this bulbs, I think is the
same as Normal Output
> > > Fluorescent bulb (6 months)
> >
>
> > > So, I think is a very good Idea about 2 VHO, maybe 3.
Does that apply
> to
> > > PC bulbs? I know the PC are not
true actinic, so, maybe I can go 2
> > > daylight PC bulbs and 1 NO
actinic.
> > >
> > > What do you think??
> >
>
> > > Reef Man
> > > ICQ # 21731316
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shane
Clays [ < < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>]
>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:06 PM
> > > To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I
need some advices.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
Jose,
> > >
> > > You do not need MHs for LPS and
softies. As a matter of fact, that
> would
> > > be
>
> > way too much, and would probably do more damage than good, trust me
on
> > > that
> > > one. It sounds like your tank is a
50 gallon. If thats the case, you
> > could
> > > run a
couple of 36 inch VHOs, giving you 3.84 watts per gallon, which
>
is
> > > enough for LPS and most softies. That would be a cheap,
efficient way
> to
> > > light your tank. If you decided you
needed more light down the road,
> you
> > > could add a 3rd,
but I really think 2 VHOs would be enough.You could
> do
> > >
some
> > > nice LPS and softies on the upper 2/3rds of the tank,
then do some
> nice
> > > polyps and mushrooms on the bottom
3rd. Thatd be a nice way to go.
> > >
> > > What are LOA
fixtures? You say they are 65k, and that would work well
> >
with
> > > an actinic or two. That may be a good way to go if you
can wire them
> up
> > > safely. Also, how hot do they
get?
> > >
> > > Only feed back for you on the skimmer
to the refugium is that if your
> > > skimmer is really cleaning the
water, your caluerpa may not get enough
> > > nutrients to grow.
They need organics to survive, and you may
> literally
> > >
starve them to death if you run your skimmer outlet into the refugium.
>
> > This
> > > may not happen either, but is a possibilty. You
could try it and see
> how
> > > it
> > > works,
but make sure to have a plan B if you see the caluerpa is not
> > >
growing.
> > >
> > > IMO
> > > Shane
C.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 01,
2001 9:54 AM
> > > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Shane
!
> > > > Regarding the flow on the refugium, I am thinking to
direct the
> > outlets
> > > of
> > > > my
skimmer (Red Sea Berlin classic) to it, and put a some kind of
> > >
overflow
> > > > to return the water to my sump. Maybe that can
be enough flow???
> > > > The "LOA" fixtures that can we get down
here (Mexico city) comes in
> 50
> > > > watts presentation
and 6500k.I think this is a good source of
> lighting
> > >
for
> > > > my refugium.
> > > >
> > >
> And you are right, I forgot to mention what kind of animals will I
>
> have,
> > > I
> > > > will keep softies, LPS,
and maybe clams, that I can skip. I am
> looking
> > >
for
> > > > the cheapest way to go, BTW, I was seriuosly thinking
on put 3 of
> the
> > > "LOA
> > > > fixtures"
available in Mexico to the Main tank, maybe with an
> actinic
> >
> > fluorescent bulb.
> > > >
> > > >
Suggestions and Recommendations are very welcome !!!!!!
> > >
>
> > > > TIA.
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > > Reef Man
> > > > ICQ #
21731316
> > > > www.crystal-oceans.com
> > > >
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> > > > -----Original
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> > > > From: Shane Clays [ < < <
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001
11:42 AM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >
> Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > You refugium does not
need a ton of flow going through it, but you
> > will
> > >
> need
> > > > a powerhead or two in it to keep the water
moving around the
> refugium
> > > > itself. My refugium
has a large flow rate, but that is beacuse it is
> > > full
>
> > > of
> > > > LR. I still have a powerhead blowing
current under the LR, just to
> > keep
> > > >
dead
> > > > space from happening. For lighting, just aim for 3-5
watts per
> gallon.
> > > If
> > > > you can
get 50-60 watts above it, you are golden. A brighter light
> > >
source
> > > > will help the caluerpa grow faster, less light,
slower growth.
> > > >
> > > > For you lighting,
what types of corals are you going to keep?
> > > >
> >
> > Shane
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday,
October 01, 2001 9:38 AM
> > > > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
Subject: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
!!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am planning a Tank
upgrade and I need some ideas and advices.
> > > > >
>
> > > > I will put a small refugium like a 10 gallons tank at one
side of
> > the
> > > > > sump. Question:
>
> > > >
> > > > > how much flow do I need
there?
> > > > > Can I use a single LOA fixture to illuminate
it??
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, the tank will
be 40"long, 16 wide and 20" tall.
> > > > >
> > >
> > Can I illuminate the tank with a single 250 watts Iwasaki?
>
> > > >
> > > > > Can I get better illumination
with a pair of 175 MH bulbs? or 150
> > HQI
> > > > >
bulbs?? or maybe a pair of 150 watts Iwasaki?
> > > >
>
> > > > > Thanks in advance for your help and
recommendations !!!
> > > > >
> > > >
>
> > > > >
> > > > > Reef Man
>
> > > > ICQ # 21731316
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