Thanks. these things aren't *remarkably* more $ than the RIO, given the 
trade-offs in fear factors.
Gonna check at my LFS for availability (I know pet store would be cheaper, 
but then I don't have to delay gratification) . I use a wavemaker setup 
with 4 small ph's now (in a 125 gal reef which given 300+ pounds of LR 
doesn't have all that much WATER. What model would you suggest I use if I 
were replacing the existing ones? Also do these have GOOD mounting suction 
cups? I've had a problem getting the current ones to stay put. When they 
move I've had one suck in a coral into the pump filter (didn't do the coral 
ANY good). Thanks again for the specific and prompt help).

Larry

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><< Do they have a web site?
>mfg.
>http://www.dannermfg.com/
>purchase online here cheap $
>http://www.thatpetplace.com/
>
>Gary
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