Yes Shane, the bulbs don�t go to the end. my tank is very large, so the bulbs are like this: 2 bulbs start from the left and the other 2 start from the right, so in the middle of the canopy there are actually 4 bulbs. about 1/3 of the tank receive the 4 bulbs light. the open brain, which is indeed an open brain but a different kind (i read a book with pics and could id it) is doing great as far as i know, the color is nice and he�s not bleaching or peeling. the moon is great and everynight opens more. i have polips which are impressive and also the mushrooms i have are growing every day. myt algae in the refugium is growing fine even do it needs more light. i think things look pretty nice so far. -----Original Message----- From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Viernes, 26 de Octubre de 2001 05:06 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Marine snow
The bulbs dont go end to end do they? I mean, the bulbs arent 72" long right? You are looking at about 80 gallons of tank, and 160 watts of light. I would say go 2 NO actinic, and 2 VHO full spectrum, and you should be able to keep LPS in there nicely. Right now, from the sounds of it, you are still to low on light for the LPS like hammers and such. Unless your lights are all concentrated at one end (or the middle of the tank, or the lights are 72" long). You bought an open brain coral right? How is it doing? IMO Shane C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marco Arturo Delsordo Jim�nez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > my tank is 6 foot long, 1 foot and 6 inches to the back, and 1 foot and 4 > inches tall. > the whole system has about 130 gal, 90 lbs of lr (i will add 40 more lbs > in > the next weeks), 60 lb of sand. 2 refugiums with caulerpa and red algae > from hawaii. > no bioballs and no fluidized filter ( i followed your advice and i�m the > tank looks better than ever). > a top fathom 300 A skimmer(i need 6 gal to fill the skimmer!!!) > 2 actinic and 2 full spectrum bulbs. Looks really great white with a blue > tint. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Viernes, 26 de Octubre de 2001 04:49 p.m. > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > Marco, > How tall is your tank? How many gallons again? And what spectrum NO bulbs > do > you have? Sorry, forgot the particulars... > > Shane > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marco Arturo Delsordo Jim�nez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:48 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > Thanks Andrew, Shane, Chris and everybody else, you�re giving me the > best > > advise ever. I�ll buy today a book in the lfs. I�ll keep an eye on the > > whole > > enviroment of my tank when i start feeding snow, I think i�ll buy 4 VHO > > bulbs for my tank, 2 actinic and 2 white (total espectrum), but i�ll buy > > first the calc reactor in mid november. I have 4 new NO 40 watt bulbs > > right > > now and my tank is very short so i think it will be enought for a while > > until i upgrade to VHO (i don�t like pc). > > I�ll let you know about my research. > > Marco > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Viernes, 26 de Octubre de 2001 04:28 p.m. > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > > > Marco, > > Dont just watch your corals. Watch for algae growth and cyno bacteria as > > well. If the corals and system arent utilizing the stuff properly, it > will > > become excess nutrients in your tank, thus feeding the algaes and cyno > > bacterias in your tank. I am not saying dont use it, just use it > > carefully. > > > > Let us know the results!!! > > > > Shane > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marco Arturo Delsordo Jim�nez [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:13 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > > > thanks Andrew, i�ll see if i can buy that in here. > > > But i have already bought the bottle of snow, i�m gonna use it anyway > > > unless > > > i see any adverse reaction from my corals > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrew Dillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Viernes, 26 de Octubre de 2001 02:09 p.m. > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Marine snow > > > > > > > > > according to the source who did the analysis it is 100% water (rounded > > off > > > 99.9) Also, I do not think they have changed the stuff, just took off > > the > > > ingredients list and the false analysis of the stuff. Even if they > have > > > changed it, it is dead phytoplankton, which mainly pollutes your > water. > > > Try > > > the refrigerated DT's LIVE phytoplankton, this is a whole lot better > for > > > your corals and water chemistry. > > > > > > Andrew > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Marco Arturo Delsordo Jim�nez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:47 PM > > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > > > > > > Shane, probably they have already changed the composition of snow, > > because > > > i > > > thought it was a liquid like water, even do i haven�t opened the > bottle > > > yet, > > > it feels and sounds like a really thick liquid, like a very > concentrated > > > soup or honey. > > > I will feed my corals tonight so my moon is open and let you know the > > > results. Any way it is supposed i should add 20 miligrams of this > > product, > > > but due to my really low coral population i will only add half the > dose. > > > Anyway you�re right, something is much better than nothing. > > > Thanks for the feedback > > > Marco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Viernes, 26 de Octubre de 2001 12:39 p.m. > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > > > > > > From what I had read on the product, it did have beneficial organisms, > > but > > > that the problem with it was the product was almost all water. The > > > percentage of of organisms was so low that the "snow" would have > > minimal, > > > beneifits when added. This was a scientific diagnosis that was done > > > against > > > other products as well using microscopes and such. Now, this was when > > the > > > product first came out, and that may have changed, but do to the > > findings, > > > I > > > never used it. I stuck with DTS (although this is probably mostly > water > > as > > > well), as well as depending on the fine particulates from the food I > > feed > > > my > > > fish (I actually see some of my SPS closing up when they capture this > > > after > > > I feed). > > > > > > Bottom line is that something is much much better than nothing when > if > > > comes to feeding your corals, whether it is Marine Snow, Mush or > > whatever. > > > If they will consume it, it will help. > > > > > > > > > FWIW/IMO > > > Shane C. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:12 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: Marine snow > > > > > > > > Not to disagree with renouned scientists......The ingredients in > > Marine > > > > Snow are, in fact, consumed by SPS. This has been proven by the same > > > > scientists that now call this particular product a "scam" FWIW. 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