Austin JavaScript is *tomorrow* night, right?

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Ben Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> @Jonathon
>
> I agree that if this functionality was used to build a generic interface,
> you'd end up with something dull and ugly.
>
> But I'm not interested in having it build the interface. I'm more
> interested in dynamically creating a clone of the server side object
> structure and API, so that I can build custom interfaces on top of that,
> without having to code each and every little handler function.
>
> I imagine it as something as magical as jQuery: all you have to do is
> include this relatively simple JavaScript file, and VOILA, you've got a
> development environment that matches the capabilities of your server.
>
> @Joe
>
> I will try to make it out tonight!
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jonathon Wilson 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> It's neat, but I've found this technique is only useful when you're really
>> building a 'generic' client which doesn't know ahead of time what
>> functionality will be available. 99 times out of 100, you're going to want
>> to put code in the client that actually uses those "available methods"
>> appropriately -- which is part of the display logic. The only way around
>> this is to then build the corresponding generic "display logic" which offers
>> those dynamic choices up to the user. These are very flexible UIs, but they
>> often end up looking very utilitarian because you can't put any prior
>> knowledge into them about what the commands are and how they'll be used.
>>
>> I've built a couple of these previously using XML RPC (which has a
>> built-in mechanism for querying what methods are available, etc. similar to
>> what you've described, just not as javascript specific). They worked, but
>> only for an in-house developers-only thing where the actual experience
>> wasn't very important.
>>
>> In the right setting, it does save you a bit of monkey work and can be
>> useful -- I've just found that the next part of development -- how you
>> actually use the available server methods often  benefits from just knowing
>> what to call and calling it. It simplifies that part of the code.
>>
>> Like all things -- its a trade off. Good in some cases: In others, less
>> so.
>>
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