On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 3:33 AM Mario Loffredo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It looks as though draft-ietf-jsonpath-base should be a Normative > reference. In > > fact, this is explicitly mentioned in the shepherd writeup (thank you!): > > > > > 15. Should any informative references be normative or > vice-versa? See > > the [IESG > Statement on Normative and Informative > References][16]. > > > > JSON Paths are depended on normatively in the document, but the > > reference for them is to I-D.ietf-jsonpath-base, which is why > that > > reference is informative. (This is in keeping with e.g. RFC > 8977, > > though in that case the reference was to the original > description of > > the JSON Path behaviour at > https://goessner.net/articles/JsonPath/.) > > > > However, that rationale doesn't make sense to me. If a normative > reference is a > > downref, "just stick it in the informative references section instead" > is not > > the appropriate fix, the usual thing is to keep it in the normative > references > > and then the RFC Editor deals with the mismatch by holding off on > publication > > of the dependent document, until the dependency is published (a so-called > > "cluster"). In this case, draft-ietf-jsonpath-base is on the same IESG > agenda > > as draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search is, so there isn't even much > reason to > > worry that draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search will be stalled for > long if at > > all, the two will likely move together. > > > > The easiest way to resolve this DISCUSS would be to change the reference > to > > Normative. If for some reason that's considered unacceptable, I'd > appreciate a > > discussion explaining why, and why "make it an informative reference" > should be > > acceptable. > > > > > [ML] I fully agree with you. > > That reference is informative because I literally interpreted Note 4 but > it should be normative. > > I'll move it to the Normative References. > Thanks John for noticing this (and pardon my amazement that I missed this detail, which is something I normally look for), and Mario for the fix. -MSK
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