Hi George and Scott,

<takes hat off, but leaves it sort of floating somewhere close to the top of 
head>

This WG, or whichever WG ends up doing this work (if any), should not be 
hesitant to take on work because of ICANN. The IETF should support a much wider 
audience than gTLD registries and registrars. This initiative has come from the 
ccTLD world, and it would be unfair to those operators to make their lives 
difficult "because ICANN".

G.

> On 25 Jul 2024, at 03:58, George Michaelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think thats wise. Well said Scott.
> 
> I shouldn't put words in people's mouths but back in the CRISP days
> discussing whois replacement, I got a sense that the "whois problem"
> excised the ICANN board and seniors quite a lot. Maybe it was down to
> personalities, personal interests, but the idea of some consistency in
> data management was big.
> 
> I am less sure modern ICANN thinks like that. I don't understand the
> constituencies who make up "decision making" in this space. I would
> hope the contracts don't say literally "whois on port 43" but a more
> nuanced statement of public data which means RDAP can be grandfathered
> in instead of some "no not like that" outcome.
> 
> And in like sense if it said ".. its EPP specified over <here>" then
> we might find ourselves in a difficult place if we said "its not EPP"
> but if we can say "EPP is now defined by ..." then we'd be on smoother
> grounds.
> 
> Or not. It's ICANN.
> 
> I fully expect (based on what I think I've read) that some people here
> say "its not EPP if it's not XML and SOAP" and maybe they're right.
> But the intent is to have extensible provisioning. If the fit now is
> for a HTTPS REST method, it's extensible, and it's for provisioning,
> I'm more of a mind to call it EPP-ng than "not EPP"
> 
> -G
> 
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Principal Engineer, Global Domains & Strategy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

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