I believe that we're getting off topic of the WGLC for 
draft-ietf-regext-ext-registry-epp.  The question is not whether creating EPP 
transports is a good idea, but whether if they are created can they be 
registered in the EPP Extension Registry.  The EPP Extension Registry should 
not be used as a blocker for the creation of EPP extensions, but simply as a 
registry to publish the existence of the EPP extensions.  In the case of the 
EPP Extensibility and Extensions analysis, we only found 60% of the EPP 
extensions analyzed registered in the EPP Extension Registry.  I don't believe 
we identified all the EPP extensions in the wild, so that % is probably around 
40% - 50% that are registered.  I don't view that % in meeting the goal of the 
EPP Extension Registry, which is meant to provide visibility for consolidation 
of EPP extensions.  What is the % that defines success for the EPP Extension 
Registry?  I would put that % around 90% and not 40% - 50% since that would 
make future assessments like the EPP Extensibility and Extensions analysis much 
simpler and complete.  

In the case of EoH, there have been multiple independent specifications and 
implementations in the wild that were never registered in the EPP Extension 
Registry.  If the community wants to consolidate on EPP extensions that should 
include the EPP transports, independent of the anticipated number of EPP 
transports and whether having additional EPP transports is a good thing or a 
bad thing.   Consider that the EPP transports will be defined independent of 
the registration in the EPP Extension Registry, which leads to the creation of 
similar incompatible extensions in the wild.  

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On 3/5/26, 5:19 AM, "Thomas Corte" <[email protected] 
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Hello Mario,


On 05.03.26 09:18, Mario Loffredo wrote:


> [ML] Regarding registrar costs, I'd like to point out that, based on the 
> experience of .it, managing 
> a TCP connection is much more complex than managing an HTTP session for 
> clients. Implementers are 
> more accustomed to sending requests via HTTP rather than TCP, and their work 
> is supported by 
> frameworks and libraries that relieve them of many implementation details, 
> such as managing the HTTP 
> session through the exchange of session cookie. At .it we have several small 
> registrars and none of 
> them have complained about the implementation effort required to create a 
> client capable of 
> interacting with the EPP server.


Just because we didn't complain (after all, what good would that have done? 
ccTLDs do as they please 
anyway) doesn't mean we liked it. Working for two registrars tasked with 
connecting to all kinds of 
registries, I actually found it pretty annoying having to deal with registries 
like .it or .pl using 
HTTP instead of TCP for their EPP servers.


I don't think you can sell this HTTP thing as a benefit to registrars.
Once registrars have a proper EPP-over-TCP toolkit in place, the hard part is 
done and they can 
connect to any registry using that protocol. Any deviations will only cause 
more work.


The only prospect of use for registrars would be if *all* registries switched 
to HTTP without 
exception, but that's not going to happen.


Best regards,


Thomas


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