> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Newton <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 11:56 AM
> To: Scott Hollenbeck <[email protected]>; 'Mahesh
> Jethanandani' <[email protected]>; 'The IESG' <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [iesg] Re: [regext] Mahesh Jethanandani's Discuss on draft-ietf-
> regext-ext-registry-epp-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> 
> 
> On 02-06-2026 6:37 AM, Scott Hollenbeck wrote:
> >> Section 5, paragraph 1
> >>>     Section 2 includes provisions for modifying and deleting existing
> >>>     registration entries by registrants.  Such requests MUST NOT be
> >>>     granted if the requested action has operational implication on other
> >>>     entities that deploy that extension, assuming that those entities can
> >>>     be identified.  This guidance can be overridden if the requested
> >>>     action MUST be taken to comply with actions that are beyond the
> >>>     control of the experts and/or IANA, e.g., to comply with legal
> >>>     actions.  Note that the registry does not include a history mechanism
> >>>     and there is no way to track deleted entries once they have been
> >>>     removed.
> >>
> >> The second sentence in this paragraph makes the prohibition
> conditional:
> >> if affected parties cannot be identified, the constraint does not apply
> >> and the removal could proceed despite potential operational impact.
> >> If this is the intended policy, a brief rationale should be provided.
> >> If not, the language should be tightened.
> >
> > [SAH] The operational implications can't be known if it's impossible to
> identify operators. If a removal request is received, and the DEs make an
> effort to identify operators to assess the operational implications of 
> removal,
> and they fail to identify operators, the removal request should be honored.
> The intention here is to avoid handcuffing IANA and the DEs who will be
> required to review a future removal request. Would this change help?
> >
> > OLD
> > Such requests MUST NOT be granted if the requested action has
> operational implication on other entities that deploy that extension,
> assuming that those entities can be identified.
> >
> > NEW.
> > Such requests can have operational implications for entities that deploy
> that extension. Designated Experts who review these requests MUST assess
> the operational implications of removal, and they MUST NOT approve the
> request if operational implications are identified. The request MAY be
> granted if no operational implications are identified.
> 
> Both the OLD and NEW need to be removed. They conflict with section 2.2.3.
> The point of 2.2.3 is that it is the judgement of the IESG if the original
> registrant is not making the request. The "no operational implications"
> means that any excuse can be given to block the action. It would be best to
> remove that entire paragraph.

[SAH] Andy, since that paragraph was added at Med's request during his AD 
review, can I ask that the two of you discuss this during the telechat? Let me 
know the outcome and I'll do whatever is decided.

Scott

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