Thank you for that clarification.  I haven't seen the option to modify or
deactivate a registration in the 2+ years I've been an AD.

Deb

On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 5:06 PM Amanda Baber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Deb,
>
>
> About these two items:
>
>
> > Section 2.2.3, para 1:  How are requests to modify or deactivate
> registrations
> authenticated?  Can anyone just masquerade as the POC make the request?
>
> > Section 4:  Consider how an unauthenticated attacker could disrupt this
> registry.  Email addresses are super easy to spoof, what keeps this from
> happening to either modify or deactivate an entry?
>
> IANA will cover this. We always send modification requests of any kind to
> the original address, even if it appears to be the source, and ask them to
> confirm the details. Sometimes the process includes additional steps, like
> determining whether the original organization has been acquired by a new
> one, or reaching out to the experts if there are unusual complications,
> like an unclear chain of custody, but this is relatively routine for us
> (mostly on account of the PEN registry, which typically sees something like
> 30 modification requests per month).
>
> thanks,
> Amanda
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> DISCUSS:
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> While I have divided my comments up into those I think are 'discuss
> worthy' and
> 'mere comments', I do believe all of my comments should be considered
> carefully.  The goal of this process specification is to have a clear and
> concise set of instructions for those with submissions/changes to this
> registry
> and the DEs who will be doing the work to consider them.
>
> Many thanks to Tero Kivinen for their secdir review.  I will also state
> that I
> agree with his points about: the status of the specification, the format
> of the
> references, the inclusion of '(or its future replacement)' - it should be
> deleted.
>
> Process specifications are not protocol documents.  There is no reason to
> make
> it PS when BCP works just fine - and especially when BCP was working group
> consensus. (Even if there is one example process specification that is
> standards track, the vast majority are not.)
>
> Section 2.1, second para, last sentence:  Why aren't Internet Drafts are
> not
> acceptable?  Do they not meet the 'permanent and readily available'
> requirement?  What if someone takes the contents of an I-D, posts it to a
> site
> that is considered 'permanent and readily available', can it be used then?
> This
> deviation from what is normally acceptable for 'specification required'
> needs
> to be explained.
>
> Section 2.1.1, para 2:  Under what circumstances is it ok for a DE with a
> COI
> not defer?  The SHOULD is currently naked, without rationale about when it
> is
> ok to ignore it.
>
> Section 2.2.3, para 1:  How are requests to modify or deactivate
> registrations
> authenticated?  Can anyone just masquerade as the POC make the request?
>
> Section 4:  Consider how an unauthenticated attacker could disrupt this
> registry.  Email addresses are super easy to spoof, what keeps this from
> happening to either modify or deactivate an entry?
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Section 2, general comment:  Remove all of the RFC 8126 text (you don't
> want to
> have to update this specification when that RFC gets replaced and yes,
> there is
> a 8126bis already), it adds no value, just makes it harder to maintain this
> specification.
>
> Section 2.2.1, Registrant name and email address:  Wait, one can merely use
> IETF, and the IESG's email address?  How will this work?  Don't we really
> want
> a person who knows more about the registration?  For some other
> registries, it
> is acceptable to use a working group name and email address (Mediatypes,
> for
> example).
>
> Section 2.2.3, para 2 and 3:  This is incomprehensible.  Registrations that
> were created w/ IETF and w/out IETF consensus can be approved by the
> IESG?  But
> external registrations can just be summarily deactivated by the DEs?
>
> Section 5:  I'm baffled by this section.  This is a process specification,
> why
> are there operational considerations? Everything that exists in this
> section
> could be either moved elsewhere or removed. Para 1 belongs in Section 1,
> para 2
> belongs in Section 2 with the rest of the DE instructions, para 3 can be
> removed.
>
>
>
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