Hi Jim,

1a) this the only way rfc9083 supports and describes
2a) same here, this is the only option for existing clients and servers compatible with rfc9083 without update to STD95 or extensions

draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions shall make a normative definition of "Breaking" vs. "Non-Breaking" to support extension authors - however in compatible way to STD95, so that none of existing implementation would experience something unexpected.

draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning shall build upon it to offer more fine-grained signalling for both requests and responses - but compatible with the above.

Because draft-ietf-regext-rdap-extensions is the foundation, it shall actually be not dependent on any other extension. We agreed to that in IETF 121 [1] that the extensions draft shall go through first because of that.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-121-regext-202411041300/

Kind Regards,
Pawel

On 16.06.26 16:57, Gould, James wrote:

There has been a lot of discussion related to extension versioning on the mailing list.  To help define a path forward, I’ve provided a set of options for the Location of Versioning Information (Opaque Versioning, Embedded Versioning, Point Versioning) and What Changes the Version (Breaking Change, Interface Change, Any Change) below for the working group to weigh in.

1.Location of Versioning Information

a.Entire Extension Identifier supported by Opaque Versioning – The only signal of a change in interface is a change to the entire Extension Identifier with no pre-defined embedded versioning scheme.

b.Embedded in Extension Identifier (New versioning type, such as Embedded Versioning) – This type of versioning would formally define a versioning scheme in the format of the Extension Identifier, where the ‘_’ can only be used as a separator for the extension elements, so the scheme needs to leverage a predefined alphanumeric format using snake case for word separators.  One option is to embed the major and minor values used in the Point Versioning into the Extension Identifier, such as the following Extension Versioning Identifier.  An example would be “exampleExtV01V12”.

i.embedded-version-identifier = name “V” major “V” minor ; Complies with "name" ABNF rule from RFC 7480

ii.name = ALPHA *( ALPHA / DIGIT) ; Subset of “name” ABNF rule from RFC 7480

iii.major = 2DIGIT ; Numerically increasing value with a leading “0” when < 10

iv.minor = 2DIGIT ; Numerically increasing value with a leading “0” when < 10

c.Point Versioning (any versioning type that doesn’t include the versioning directly in the Extension Identifier) – The versioning is additive to the Extension Identifier, where the Extension Identifier acts as a namespace.  Extensions that support Point Versioning includes a dependency on the implementation of the Versioning Extension for clients to be capable of knowing the extension versions supported by the server and to indicate what extension version it desires to use.  The server supports a default version of each Point Versioning Extension implemented with the capability for the client to override the default using a query parameter or a media type parameter.

2.What Changes the Version

a.Breaking Change – The only requirement for changing the version is when the successor extension makes a breaking change to the predecessor extension.  Learning new optional features in an implemented successor extension would need to be communicated out-of-band.

b.Interface Change – Any interface change (breaking or non-breaking) changes the version of the successor extension.  A non-interface change in the extension specification does not change the version, so therefore the mapping of the extension specification to the version is embedded in the specification, such as the use of the Extension Version Identifier section for Point Versioning.

c.Any Change – Any change to the specification changes the version of the successor extension.  The scheme for the versioning can be based on the draft versions, while considering the possible change in the extension names as well as draft version numbers (e.g., proprietary example-ext changes to individual draft draft-author-example-ext-01 changes to working group draft draft-ietf-example-ext-00).  Nit changes to a specification will result in a version change.

Are there additional options that should be considered?

In thinking about the options, my preference continues to be “Point Versioning” for the “Location of Versioning Information” and “Interface Change” for “What Changes the Version”.  This keeps the versioning information outside of the Extension Identifier, since there are too many use cases for embedding the versioning inside the Extension Identifier that is not well suited for the “name” ABNF rule from RFC 7480.  The versioning needs to support defining the full interface of an extension so that clients don’t break when expecting an older interface or when expecting a newer interface.  The mapping of the specification to the interface can be included directly in the specification, such as including an “Extension Version Identifier” section, as done in draft-ietf-regext-rdap-versioning (Section 6), draft-ietf-regext-rdap-jscontact (Section 3.1.2), and draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-verified-contacts (Section 7). There can be proprietary extensions, individual IETF draft extensions, working group IETF drafts, and finally RFCs that don’t provide for a consistent naming scheme that can be used in the Extension Identifier.

Thanks,

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JG


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